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Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:27 pm

    

Just In Pageant Report:

From Thailand, The Mister Global Organization announces today, September 5th, 2022, that Mister Global 2021
Miguel Angel Lucas Carrasco from Spain has resigned from being last year's titleholder.

Surprise but ecstatic was First Runner-up Danh Chieu Linh of Vietnam who have no sneaking suspicion that he will
assume the title and the responsibilities in due time. Pradit Pradinut, President of Mr. Global said of Angel Lucas
Carrasco, “We are so sad to announce that Miguel Angel Lucas Carrasco has to relinquish his title due to personal
reasons that make him unable to fulfill his duties as Mister Global 2021..."

Several hours later Angel quickly reacted to what the President said: “It’s easier to say I, Miguel Ángel can’t comply
with his obligations as Mister Global than say this organization doesn’t offer any prize immediately while one needs
to survive on his own money. What happens? Well, one needs to work to survive.”

Seeing this exchange of words, I wonder maybe there are Misso members who know the ins and out of pageantry,
especially this question: Just when does the winner receive their prize money if any? Is there any allowance given
to the titleholder for him to survive?

And how about this question? Are there pageants on the record that don't have prize money? The reason why I am
asking this question because somebody reasoned out in favor of the organization and this is what the person said:
"Not sure why he is whining (Angel Lucas Carrasco) as he probably knew upon signing the contracts he wouldn’t be
paid whatsoever and before stepping into a pageant he should have inquired well before what are the prizes or if
any.

Really? So is it safe to assume that the previous Mr. Global candidates joined this contest just for the heck of it?
Name recognition? Fame and popularity? A chance to have a short vacation in Thailand? Showbiz and TV opportunities ...
but zero money incentives?

And then the report segued to besmirching Angel Lucas Carrasco as this was written: He was already in war with his
local pageant RNB España around 1 month ago and was lambasting them when he was called to crown his successor
which he refused for the same reason.

He also auto-abdicated from his local crown removing his titles from his profile. This makes you realize why many
times the most handsome/beautiful do not win pageants cos of their horrible attitudes as they need to work with
them after. While Mister Global Org was unable to detect his ‘real colors’ and fell for his ‘fakery mask’, his local
pageant was very well aware of his horrible ‘attitudes’ and has been caught several times making racist, homophobic,
missosoginist comments while he was still only Mister Toledo but still decided give him the title. They were well
aware of the risks but still decided to go ahead.

(By the way, was missosoginist a newly coined term for someone who despises and dislikes anybody from Missosology,
... hahaha ... or he meant misogynist which is a person who discriminates against women?)

I am not putting a shade on the Misso writer who made the report ... or whoever the person who is opening these
cans of worms. If everything that was reported above is true, then maybe Mr. Global was right with their decision.
But if all these demolition maneuverings were done to "save face" because the current titleholder stepped down, all
we want is more investigations on the matter.

When all evidence is out in the open and all testimonies corroborated ... which confirms or supports a statement
and theory, -... that will be the time SocMed will decide on who was right or wrong.



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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby madamebovarry » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:34 pm

Oxano Fedorovo second part
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:45 pm

When I was on vacation in the Philippines, I was talking to the owner of the now defunct male beauty pageant, and he spilled
the beans that yes ... there are some pageant organizers who were rumored to have not paid their titleholders ... and the story
of Angel Lucas Carrasco is not an isolated case. It is endemic.

I wish somebody can corroborate or confirm these pageants' clandestine deals. Not that I am siding with the winner.

I am encouraging also any Missosology members who are privy to how cash prizes are paid in any contest be it male or
female pageants to please shed light on this. Any info you can share will be highly appreciated to educate us if there
is something we should know about the manner of payment.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:57 pm

madamebovarry wrote:Oxano Fedorovo second part


Or he is Amparo Munoz II. Why did Amparo Munoz resign as Miss Universe?

She was known as the controversial beauty queen as she surrendered both the title and crown after six months of her
reign due to her refusal to follow organizational regulations. She refused to travel to Japan and fulfill her Miss Universe
duties during her reign.

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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby madamebovarry » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:30 pm

Amparo has always been very strange, I hope this guy doesn't follow in his footsteps
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:12 pm

madamebovarry wrote:Amparo has always been very strange, I hope this guy doesn't follow in his footsteps


We are not sure of the stories we heard ... but isn't it ironic ... they are both Spanish?

No shade there ... just asking?

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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:41 am

Kasuka ang Mister Global. Kung wala palang pondo puke nila wag na silang mag-pageant.

Pero eto namang Missosology (I mean the FB page), mukhang sinisiraan pa si Mr. Spain. What the heck. Siya na nga ang hindiu binabayaran, siya pa ang masama?

Napansin tuloy ng marami na parang kino-cover up ng Missosology ang Mister Global.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

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Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:Kasuka ang Mister Global. Kung wala palang pondo puke nila wag na silang mag-pageant.

Pero eto namang Missosology (I mean the FB page), mukhang sinisiraan pa si Mr. Spain. What the heck. Siya na nga ang hindiu binabayaran, siya pa ang masama?

Napansin tuloy ng marami na parang kino-cover up ng Missosology ang Mister Global.


Just to be fair to both parties:

1. If there is prize money, Mr. Global needs to pay the winner once and for all. But until now we are in limbo
wondering if there is really a cash prize involved.

2. If the Misso correspondent was right that indeed Mr. Global does not believe in giving cash incentives to the
winners, how can this contest lure the candidates to join? It doesn't make any sense ...

3. Money talks in pageantry. Money has a strong influence on people's actions and decisions ... so cash incentives
goads candidates to do what he has not tried before (even swallowing his pride/principles like photoshoots in the
skimpiest of bikinis or parading in front of people in a dress that shows too much skin.

Indeed there are several reasons why a candidate accepts the responsibility of being his country's representative
like 1. the chance to compete on the international stage 2. The chance to meet candidates from other countries
and have a lasting friendship with them 3. fame and popularity or 4. have a good time and the chance to experience
seeing another country.

However, without monetary rewards, it looked like the pageant is like putting the gallows in front of them and the
noose and the rope on their neck.

Imagine a candidate spending lots of moolah on his training and clothes and then after he won the dreaded reality
is at hand: there is no cash award ... BOMBER!

We talked about ironies in my other threads ... here's one of them. The candidate joined the pageantry to earn
money ... even just a little. He won and he found out there is no cash reward ... Arriving in his country reality bites
...his debt was staring at him ... reminding him It's time to pay.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby LonFlores » Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:07 am

Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:Kasuka ang Mister Global. Kung wala palang pondo puke nila wag na silang mag-pageant.

Pero eto namang Missosology (I mean the FB page), mukhang sinisiraan pa si Mr. Spain. What the heck. Siya na nga ang hindiu binabayaran, siya pa ang masama?

Napansin tuloy ng marami na parang kino-cover up ng Missosology ang Mister Global.


Siyempre, Pawee strikes again. Para may free panlalandi at paid coverage sa Mister Global pageant ala Mister Supranational. Wonder why MS is among Big 5 ng Misso kahit chakarot at LED screen lang pinanlalaban? Hahahahahahaha.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:24 pm

The FB commentors are now attacking Missosology for allegedly protecting Mister Global and they defended the dethroned/resigned winner. Also other pageant pages are posting Mister Global Org.'s version of the story rather than the dethroned/resigned winner.



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Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:33 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:The FB commentors are now attacking Missosology for allegedly protecting Mister Global and they defended the dethroned/resigned winner. Also other pageant pages are posting Mister Global Org.'s version of the story rather than the dethroned/resigned winner.





Finally, the tide has turned in Angel Lukas Carrasco's favor. These commentaries made a valid point:

Byr On
Blaming him because he doesn't want to be exploited? Why set up a pageant with no prize money and expecting
duties from the winner when there's no financial support?

Alicia Yvette
He’s not wrong though. If he has assigned ‘duties’ but his day job prevents him from doing it, just get a volunteer
from one of the past winners. It goes both ways. Pageants need to treat contestants with respect, or people
will stop participating.

Wanderer Flowers
No prize? Then national directors should boycott this pageant. For sure there's a franchise fee, so they should be
able to give prizes.

Minny Rachida
OMG Is it a charity pageant ?? All candidates who deserve to be win should get a prize and money reward. I cant
believe in this 21 th century, there is still work without pay.
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Who the hell on earth organize a pageant with no plans of providing prize money or any support to the winner? Mr
Spain just did the right thing. He simply doesn't want to work without getting any in return.


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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:06 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:The FB commentors are now attacking Missosology for allegedly protecting Mister Global and they defended the dethroned/resigned winner. Also other pageant pages are posting Mister Global Org.'s version of the story rather than the dethroned/resigned winner.





Hi ajsy0203. What a difference a day makes. The photos accompanying your response ... did not really do justice
to Angel Lucas's situation and they did not help his case. Instead, it muddled the breaking story and added more confusion.


Using HIRED and FIRED to label the photos is kind of cute ... because it rhymes. It takes a genius to make a catchy
and intriguing caption like that.

The next photo was labeled DETHRONED which has the same meaning as FIRED.

All the while I thought he RESIGNED - meaning he GAVE UP and he QUIT the job. And it is just so ASSUMING for Mr.
Global to conveniently use these words to save face and avoid humiliation.

Logic dictates: how can you dethrone or fire somebody when he has tendered his resignation already?

I know it is not your fault for using these photos taken from somewhere. Your intentions are good because the
thread looks bare without the photos. It is just that somebody did not label it appropriately. Thanks anyway.

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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:04 pm

Prozac wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:The FB commentors are now attacking Missosology for allegedly protecting Mister Global and they defended the dethroned/resigned winner. Also other pageant pages are posting Mister Global Org.'s version of the story rather than the dethroned/resigned winner.





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Minor pageant....never heard of it.

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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:34 pm

Prozac wrote:
Prozac wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:The FB commentors are now attacking Missosology for allegedly protecting Mister Global and they defended the dethroned/resigned winner. Also other pageant pages are posting Mister Global Org.'s version of the story rather than the dethroned/resigned winner.





Tom Barns
Just wondering if the terms were explained to Mr. Vietnam that there is no prize money or allowance that will be
given. Otherwise, Mr. Vietnam might think of stepping down too because he will be forced to leave his daytime job
and he will realize the magnitude of his decision.

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Then Dongwoo Shin of South Korea will follow. Maybe he understands the situation more since the last winner
was from Korea and have a thorough experience of spending his own money for his entire reign.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby FaruqHuda » Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:26 pm

too many ignoramuses on this thread and don't know nothing about how pageants are run. Virtually all pageants will not pay the winners until after they finish their reign. Some winners get 25% of their prize money during the 1st quarter, another 25% during the 2nd quarter, and then 50% after they crown their successor. The problem is that Miguel Carrasco refused to sign the contract after he won - and this contract would have given him his prize money. I think he didnt undertand the contract at all, which makes me think that he is not smart. lol
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:50 am

FaruqHuda wrote:too many ignoramuses on this thread and don't know nothing about how pageants are run. Virtually all pageants will not pay the winners until after they finish their reign. Some winners get 25% of their prize money during the 1st quarter, another 25% during the 2nd quarter, and then 50% after they crown their successor. The problem is that Miguel Carrasco refused to sign the contract after he won - and this contract would have given him his prize money. I think he didnt undertand the contract at all, which makes me think that he is not smart. lol


Well thank you, Mr.-Know-It-All, and you came out of your shell and you spend your precious time calling all of us
ignoramuses. In my second entry to this thread, in order to be fair to every party (Mr. Global and AngelLucas), I
have been calling for anybody who can share their knowledge on how everything is paid, but it fell on deaf ears
or nobody really knows how it is done until you came. This is what I said:

"I am encouraging also any Missosology members who are privy to how cash prizes are paid in Mr. Global (or any contest
be it male or female pageants) to please shed light on this. Any info you can share will be highly appreciated to educate
us if there is something we should know about the manner of payment."

As I told you, I know two pageant owners in the Philippines, and they told me that yes there are pageants who manage
to evade their responsibilities, especially the payment of cash prizes. But I didn't take that knowledge and make blanket
generalizations that YES it is true to ALL pageants. I was adamant and hesitant, to say the least. And I didn't say names
just to prove my point.

The writer conducting a case on behalf of Mr. Global even said this" "Not sure why he is whining (Angel Lucas Carrasco)
as he probably knew upon signing the contracts 'HE WOULDN'T BE PAID WHATSOEVER ... and before stepping into a pageant
he should have inquired well before what are the prizes or if any.

If the information you are telling us comes from Mr. Global, maybe we will take it with a grain of salt. But if your knowledge
of how things are paid came from another pageant - I doubt it.

Not all pageants are run and are governed by the same policies, approaches, and conduct of action.

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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:18 am

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KUNG YUNG MGA PAHADA SA KANTO BINABAYARAN NG WAMPIPTI, SIYA PA KAYA NA MALA-INTERNATIONAL MODEL ANG DATING.

PAHADA FOR FREE ANG GUSTO NG ORG AT NI PAWEE KAY MR. SPAIN? MANIGAS ANG MGA TINGGIL NILA.
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby FaruqHuda » Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Prozac wrote:
FaruqHuda wrote:too many ignoramuses on this thread and don't know nothing about how pageants are run. Virtually all pageants will not pay the winners until after they finish their reign. Some winners get 25% of their prize money during the 1st quarter, another 25% during the 2nd quarter, and then 50% after they crown their successor. The problem is that Miguel Carrasco refused to sign the contract after he won - and this contract would have given him his prize money. I think he didnt undertand the contract at all, which makes me think that he is not smart. lol


Well thank you, Mr.-Know-It-All, and you came out of your shell and you spend your precious time calling all of us
ignoramuses. In my second entry to this thread, in order to be fair to every party (Mr. Global and AngelLucas), I
have been calling for anybody who can share their knowledge on how everything is paid, but it fell on deaf ears
or nobody really knows how it is done until you came. This is what I said:

"I am encouraging also any Missosology members who are privy to how cash prizes are paid in Mr. Global (or any contest
be it male or female pageants) to please shed light on this. Any info you can share will be highly appreciated to educate
us if there is something we should know about the manner of payment."

As I told you, I know two pageant owners in the Philippines, and they told me that yes there are pageants who manage
to evade their responsibilities, especially the payment of cash prizes. But I didn't take that knowledge and make blanket
generalizations that YES it is true to ALL pageants. I was adamant and hesitant, to say the least. And I didn't say names
just to prove my point.

The writer conducting a case on behalf of Mr. Global even said this" "Not sure why he is whining (Angel Lucas Carrasco)
as he probably knew upon signing the contracts 'HE WOULDN'T BE PAID WHATSOEVER ... and before stepping into a pageant
he should have inquired well before what are the prizes or if any.

If the information you are telling us comes from Mr. Global, maybe we will take it with a grain of salt. But if your knowledge
of how things are paid came from another pageant - I doubt it.

Not all pageants are run and are governed by the same policies, approaches, and conduct of action.



Learn how to read. I didn't say everyone is an ignoramus as you erroneously stated ("calling us all ignoramuses"). I said "too many ignoramuses on this thread ." If Mister Global doesn't pay their winners, then why would the 1st runner-up accept the promotion to be the new Mister Global? LMAO
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Re: Mister Global 2021 Stepped Down

Postby Prozac » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:30 am

FaruqHuda wrote: "If Mister Global doesn't pay their winners, then why would the 1st runner-up accept the promotion
to be the new Mister Global? LMAO."

Fair comment. But I am not saying this because I am trying to put a shade on Mr. Vietnam or anybody from Mr. Global
Vietnam. At the rate of how things are going ... Vietnam has an increasing number of male pageant winners and title
holders. And from the looks of it, they are considered number 1 in male pageantry.

It doesn't mean that if the first runner-up accepted the responsibilities and the promotion ... it is 100 percent sure there
is payment. Take it from the word of an ordinary Vietnamese fan ... "Oh he doesn't need the money ... what is important
is the title ... ANOTHER FEATHER IS ADDED TO OUR CAP!"

Who can blame them ... (That's human nature I guess). The title and recognition are enough to some people ... it was
given to Vietnam and the first runner-up accepted it ... and we don't have to question that!
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