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Postby Angela » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:42 pm

The beauty queens who are biracial should be called "biracial" or "mixed" and NOT black. By calling them black, you're denying their non-white side. Chelsi Smith always corrected people who called her black, as she was clearly biracial and she always acknowledged her white side.
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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:16 am

Angela wrote:The beauty queens who are biracial should be called "biracial" or "mixed" and NOT black. By calling them black, you're denying their non-white side. Chelsi Smith always corrected people who called her black, as she was clearly biracial and she always acknowledged her white side.


With all due respect, I don't think I'm denying some of these women of their other ethnicity. Calling them black (even though biracial or mixed) doesn't devalue their other race/ethnicity. If you read the thread, I was careful with my words, making sure I used the proper term. In example I used African-American to describe Vanessa Williams. I mentioned woman of color to describe biracial queens like Nancy Neede, Shanealle Petty and Flora Coquerel. And also for these biracial queens, I made sure that I pointed out the ethnicities of their parents. And I think calling them is not incorrect, since all of them considered themselves black. Just look at their social media pages, they are proud to be black.
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Postby mybadname » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:33 am

I was hoping also that someday Philippines would send its first Black Amerasian queen in the Miss Universe.
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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:48 am

mybadname wrote:I was hoping also that someday Philippines would send its first Black Amerasian queen in the Miss Universe.


I want to see Apriel Smith to represent Philippines in Miss Universe. I'm always a fan of her.
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Postby XAMURAI » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:42 am

Miss Israel 2013... :%((

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Postby Jaishee » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:04 am

before Flora there was Chloe right ???
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Postby Angela » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:58 am

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Angela wrote:The beauty queens who are biracial should be called "biracial" or "mixed" and NOT black. By calling them black, you're denying their non-white side. Chelsi Smith always corrected people who called her black, as she was clearly biracial and she always acknowledged her white side.


With all due respect, I don't think I'm denying some of these women of their other ethnicity. Calling them black (even though biracial or mixed) doesn't devalue their other race/ethnicity. If you read the thread, I was careful with my words, making sure I used the proper term. In example I used African-American to describe Vanessa Williams. I mentioned woman of color to describe biracial queens like Nancy Neede, Shanealle Petty and Flora Coquerel. And also for these biracial queens, I made sure that I pointed out the ethnicities of their parents. And I think calling them is not incorrect, since all of them considered themselves black. Just look at their social media pages, they are proud to be black.


If they are proud to call themselves black, then they must really hate or do not acknowledge their white side, and thus rejecting their white parent who loves and cares for them just as much as their black parent.
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Postby Stoichio » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:01 pm

XAMURAI wrote:Miss Israel 2013... :%((


Yes, Yittish deserves a spot here. There was also a Miss Sweden (I think 2002) of African descent in Miss Universe.


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HARAYA wrote:I missed seeing quality posts like these! Kudos, terese23! :hx


Thank you! I hope too see more quality post too. I >:D< >:D< >:D<
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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:49 pm

XAMURAI wrote:Miss Israel 2013... :%((


It is still mind-blogging the exclusion of Israel in 2013. I think she really deserve a spot. But then again 2013 is such a competitive year.
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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:25 pm

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Angela wrote:The beauty queens who are biracial should be called "biracial" or "mixed" and NOT black. By calling them black, you're denying their non-white side. Chelsi Smith always corrected people who called her black, as she was clearly biracial and she always acknowledged her white side.


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If they are proud to call themselves black, then they must really hate or do not acknowledge their white side, and thus rejecting their white parent who loves and cares for them just as much as their black parent.


Identifying that you are black, i think does not equate to rejecting or abandoning or denouncing your other race. I think it is really unfair to the ladies that you made an assumption that they hate the other side of them. I can not speak for them wether they do not acknowledge their other side. But here is what I know, Shanaelle Petty joined Miss Universe Croatia to honor her late Croatian mother. In her recent post in Instagram, Ariana Miyamoto she identified herself both as an Asian and black person. And if you look at the social media accounts of the other biracial queens like Nancy Neede, Lola Odusuga to name a few, you will see the love them have for they Caucasian parent and even grandparents.

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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:30 pm

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XAMURAI wrote:Miss Israel 2013... :%((


Yes, Yittish deserves a spot here. There was also a Miss Sweden (I think 2002) of African descent in Miss Universe.


Great job!


Thank you!

Yeah, Malou Hansson Miss Sweden 2002. Had only her and Yittish placed the year they competed. The reason why I did not include them both is because they did not received discrimination when they won, but I might be wrong though.
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Postby terese23 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:39 pm

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before Flora there was Chloe right ???
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Thank you so much!

Absolutely before Flora there were other woman of color who won Miss France. Like you mentioned Chloe in 2009, Cindy in 2005, Corrine in 2003, Sonia in 2000, and Veronique the first one in 1993.
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