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MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby Prozac » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:17 pm

    

According to Roberta Tamondong during Instagram Live, MGI announced that they are scrapping the swimsuit
round in a bid to avoid offending Muslim hosts in Indonesia.

Nawat knew this was coming. Was this the result of the swimsuit competition where the candidates were wearing
the skimpiest and the tightest swimwear in Bali? Seeing the video for the first time I was telling myself: "It's good
the most zealot Muslims in Indonesia are just brushing the swimsuit competition like they are just watching a music
video. Oh my ... how they've grown ..."

I guess I was wrong. Nawat's 360 degrees turn, says the whole gamut of the pressure of the silent majority, that
leads to Nawat scrapping the swimwear episode, thrashing Nawat's rosy outlook on possible profits.

Will this dampen the spirit of swimwear fanatics and will it further prick Nawat's penchant for numbers in terms of
patronage and video views? For what is a pageant without a swimwear competition? And those looking for fabulous
production numbers will be disappointed because these prods are part and parcel of the swimwear round.

Here is the link to the swimsuit video that started it all. It may not be the real reason, but it sounded like a red flag
alert to Nawat, knowing how stubborn he can be. For sure he regretted Indonesia had hosted the pageant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHf6XSkL1Ho





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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby esperasave » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:40 pm

WHAT IS BALI, INDONESIA KNOWN FOR AND THE REST OF ITS 13,000 ISLAND NATIONS? WHAT DO THE MILLIONS OF TOURISTS ARE WEARING WHEN THEY ENJOY THE SANDS AND THE BEACH OF BALI. THEY ARE WEARING BIKINIS AND TRUNKS WITH INDONESIAN PEOPLE ARE WELCOMING THEM LIKE THAT. BESIDES, INDONESIA HAS BEEN SENDING BEAUTY CONTESTANTS IN ALL PAGEANTRIES FOR A LONG TIME AND ALWAYS PARTICIPATE WITH BIKINI COMPETITION. FURTHERMORE, IN ALL PUBLIC PLACES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WITH BEACHES OR SWIMMING POOLS AND IN THE MOVIES OR TV, PEOPLE COULD PORTRAY WEARING BIKINIS AND OTHER SEXY PARAPHERNALIA OR OUTFITS. IN THE OLYMPICS WHEN THERE'S SPORTS INVOLVING THE POOL AND ACROBATS, WHAT ARE THOSE COMPETITORS WEARING? ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T MAKE THIS A MAJOR ISSUE WITH WOMEN AT THE BEAUTY PAGEANTS OR ELSE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THOSE INSTANCES. IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. THE RELIGION OF ISLAM, IT'S
PEOPLE AND CULTURE IS VERY MUCH ACCEPTABLE IN ALL NATIONS OF THE WORLD. WE HAVE BUILT THOUSANDS OF MOSQUE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD ESPECIALLY IN THE WESTERN WORLD BUT WHY THEY DON'T LEARN TO EMBRACE THE RITUALS, TRADITIONS AND CULTURE OF OTHER RELIGIONS. IN SAUDI ARABIA ALONE, YOU CANNOT BRING A HOLY BIBLE AND IS CONSIDERED CONTRABAND WHEN DOING SO. BUT QUORAN IS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEM TO LATIN AMERICA, ASIA, EUROPEAN UNION, AUSTRALIA AND IN ALL CONTINENTS. WE HAVE NEVER RESTRICTED THEM TO BE CARRIED ANYWHERE. IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO RESPECT. BUT ANYWAY, RELIGION ALONE CANNOT SAVE YOU AS LONG AS YOU DON'T KILL, HURT, STEAL OR PUT ANY GOD IN VAIN, EVERYONE OF US WOULD GET SALVATION. LIKEWISE, EVERYONE CANNOT BE CATHOLICS, CHRISTIANS, JEWISHS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS BUT ALL OF US IS GOD IN ALL OURSELVES. WE ARE GOD CREATED WITH HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS WHICH IS OUR MIND, BODY, SPIRITS THAT'S ALIVE AND DYNAMIC WHEN OUR WHOLE TOTALITY IS IN ACTION.
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby ajsy0203 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:09 pm

Prozac wrote:According to Roberta Tamondong during Instagram Live, MGI announced that they are scrapping the swimsuit
round in a bid to avoid offending Muslim hosts in Indonesia.

Nawat knew this was coming. Was this the result of the swimsuit competition where the candidates were wearing
the skimpiest and the tightest swimwear in Bali? Seeing the video for the first time I was telling myself: "It's good
the most zealot Muslims in Indonesia are just brushing the swimsuit competition like they are just watching a music
video. Oh my ... how they've grown ..."

I guess I was wrong. Nawat's 360 degrees turn, says the whole gamut of the pressure of the silent majority, that
leads to Nawat scrapping the swimwear episode, thrashing Nawat's rosy outlook on possible profits.

Will this dampen the spirit of swimwear fanatics and will it further prick Nawat's penchant for numbers in terms of
patronage and video views? For what is a pageant without a swimwear competition? And those looking for fabulous
production numbers will be disappointed because these prods are part and parcel of the swimwear round.

Here is the link to the swimsuit video that started it all. It may not be the real reason, but it sounded like a red flag
alert to Nawat, knowing how stubborn he can be. For sure he regretted Indonesia had hosted the pageant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHf6XSkL1Ho





Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority)? So swimsuit presentation was allowed unlike at Miss World 2013 where they wore one piece swimsuit with sarong in the Beach Fashion challenge event?
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby ajsy0203 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:11 pm

MGI should had held in Bali for the final show rather than Jakarta, at least they can wore swimsuit with sarong?
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby esperasave » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:19 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:
Prozac wrote:According to Roberta Tamondong during Instagram Live, MGI announced that they are scrapping the swimsuit
round in a bid to avoid offending Muslim hosts in Indonesia.

Nawat knew this was coming. Was this the result of the swimsuit competition where the candidates were wearing
the skimpiest and the tightest swimwear in Bali? Seeing the video for the first time I was telling myself: "It's good
the most zealot Muslims in Indonesia are just brushing the swimsuit competition like they are just watching a music
video. Oh my ... how they've grown ..."

I guess I was wrong. Nawat's 360 degrees turn, says the whole gamut of the pressure of the silent majority, that
leads to Nawat scrapping the swimwear episode, thrashing Nawat's rosy outlook on possible profits.

Will this dampen the spirit of swimwear fanatics and will it further prick Nawat's penchant for numbers in terms of
patronage and video views? For what is a pageant without a swimwear competition? And those looking for fabulous
production numbers will be disappointed because these prods are part and parcel of the swimwear round.

Here is the link to the swimsuit video that started it all. It may not be the real reason, but it sounded like a red flag
alert to Nawat, knowing how stubborn he can be. For sure he regretted Indonesia had hosted the pageant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHf6XSkL1Ho





Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority)? So swimsuit presentation was allowed unlike at Miss World 2013 where they wore one piece swimsuit with sarong in the Beach Fashion challenge event?


YOU SEE HINDUISM IS MORE ACCEPTING AND RESPECTFUL TOWARDS OTHER PRACTICES. THEY ARE ALSO ONE OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS IN WORLD'S RELIGION. IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEY COULD HAVE SWIMSUIT COMPETITION IN A DIGNIFIED WAY FROM BALI. SWIMSUIT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED, SANCTIFIED, DIGNIFIED IN ALL BEAUTY PAGEANTS BECAUSE THEY WOULD SHOW HOW PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIT AND HEALTHY. IT SHOULD BE A PART OF AN INDIVIDUAL OF IT'S TOTALITY TO FEEL GOOD, AND ACCEPTING TO ONE'S OWN PHYSICAL BODY TO THE PUBLIC WHETHER YOU ARE OBESE, UNDERWEIGHT, OVERSIZE OR SOMEONE WHO IS PROPORTIONATE TO HEIGHT AND WEIGHT.
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby prowazekii » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:29 am

interesting being mislim country, Indonesia, is giving the philippines,thaoiland, vietnam a run for their lunatic ageant fans :!!
i think of Miss Universe who is the most beautiful, most femininely graceful, most charming, delightful and sweet...
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby IwanSetiawan » Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:59 am

Prozac wrote:According to Roberta Tamondong during Instagram Live, MGI announced that they are scrapping the swimsuit
round in a bid to avoid offending Muslim hosts in Indonesia.

Nawat knew this was coming. Was this the result of the swimsuit competition where the candidates were wearing
the skimpiest and the tightest swimwear in Bali? Seeing the video for the first time I was telling myself: "It's good
the most zealot Muslims in Indonesia are just brushing the swimsuit competition like they are just watching a music
video. Oh my ... how they've grown ..."

I guess I was wrong. Nawat's 360 degrees turn, says the whole gamut of the pressure of the silent majority, that
leads to Nawat scrapping the swimwear episode, thrashing Nawat's rosy outlook on possible profits.

Will this dampen the spirit of swimwear fanatics and will it further prick Nawat's penchant for numbers in terms of
patronage and video views? For what is a pageant without a swimwear competition? And those looking for fabulous
production numbers will be disappointed because these prods are part and parcel of the swimwear round.

Here is the link to the swimsuit video that started it all. It may not be the real reason, but it sounded like a red flag
alert to Nawat, knowing how stubborn he can be. For sure he regretted Indonesia had hosted the pageant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHf6XSkL1Ho






This is not new at all lol. It was revealed last year after the announcement of Indonesia being the host country for MGI 2022.
Ivan Gunawan agreed to bring MGI to Indonesia in 2022 with one condition, not to have swimsuits competition for preliminary and finale. Nawat agreed and they came up with the idea of holding the swimsuits competition in Bali and sportswear competition in Jakarta. Compared to when we were hosting MW in 2013 we have come a long way, we couldn't even hold the finale in Jakarta and they have to move the final venue to a much smaller venue in Bali. This year we are hosting MGI we can see the amount of support that they received, not only from fans and private sector but also from our government is massive. There were tons of pictures from the swimsuits competition in Bali spreading around the internet and the media in Indonesia, but you don't see people marching and protesting. We are lucky to have Ivan Gunawan, his love and passion for beauty pageant, entertainment and willingness to take a risk is something that we really need from our organizations. He's done something that even Puteri or Miss Indonesia Organization couldn't do. Ivan is like Ellen DeGeneres of Indonesia, with all of the connections that he has he won't have any problem finding any sponsors and support. The only thing Nawat might regret is that he wished that he's done this sooner.
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby Prozac » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:33 am

esperasave wrote:WHAT IS BALI,INDONESIA KNOWN FOR AND THE REST OF ITS 13,000 ISLAND NATIONS? WHAT DO THE MILLIONS OF TOURISTS ARE WEARING WHEN THEY ENJOY THE SANDS AND THE BEACH OF BALI. THEY ARE WEARING BIKINIS AND TRUNKS WITH INDONESIAN PEOPLE ARE WELCOMING THEM LIKE THAT. BESIDES, INDONESIA HAS BEEN SENDING BEAUTY CONTESTANTS IN ALL PAGEANTRIES FOR A LONG TIME AND ALWAYS PARTICIPATE WITH BIKINI COMPETITION. FURTHERMORE, IN ALL PUBLIC PLACES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WITH BEACHES OR SWIMMING POOLS AND IN THE MOVIES OR TV, PEOPLE COULD PORTRAY WEARING BIKINIS AND OTHER SEXY PARAPHERNALIA OR OUTFITS. IN THE OLYMPICS WHEN THERE'S SPORTS INVOLVING THE POOL AND ACROBATS, WHAT ARE THOSE COMPETITORS WEARING? ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T MAKE THIS A MAJOR ISSUE WITH WOMEN AT THE BEAUTY PAGEANTS OR ELSE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THOSE INSTANCES. IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. THE RELIGION OF ISLAM, IT'S
PEOPLE AND CULTURE IS VERY MUCH ACCEPTABLE IN ALL NATIONS OF THE WORLD. WE HAVE BUILT THOUSANDS OF MOSQUE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD ESPECIALLY IN THE WESTERN WORLD BUT WHY THEY DON'T LEARN TO EMBRACE THE RITUALS, TRADITIONS AND CULTURE OF OTHER RELIGIONS. IN SAUDI ARABIA ALONE, YOU CANNOT BRING A HOLY BIBLE AND IS CONSIDERED CONTRABAND WHEN DOING SO. BUT QUORAN IS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEM TO LATIN AMERICA, ASIA, EUROPEAN UNION, AUSTRALIA AND IN ALL CONTINENTS. WE HAVE NEVER RESTRICTED THEM TO BE CARRIED ANYWHERE.


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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby Prozac » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:00 am

Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) & wearing swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

I don't know if this is old news but Lebanon's archaic legal system means wearing a bikini is a no-no. The thousands
of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironic there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?



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Postby Prozac » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:34 am

IwanSetiawan wrote: "This year we are hosting MGI we can see the amount of support that they received, not only
from fans and private sector but also from our government is massive. There were tons of pictures from the swimsuits
competition in Bali spreading around the internet and the media in Indonesia, but you don't see people marching and
protesting."

This is actually an improvement if you ask me: "Tons of pictures from the swimsuit competition in Bali are spreading
in the internet and the media in Indonesia, but you don't see people marching or protesting."

Congratulations too on the government support as well as the private sector. But you have the most energetic fan
support in Indonesia.

This is actually growth and Indonesian people though Muslims through and through may have mellowed with the passing
of time and are gradually embracing Western culture. Just be patient.

I wish the time will come when what can be done in Bali can be done also in Jakarta.
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Postby esperasave » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:48 am

Prozac wrote:Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) therefore swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

I don't know if this is old news but Lebanon's archaic legal system means wearing a bikini is a no-no. The thousands
of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironical there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?





Wearing a Bikini at the beach and other pool side places is a crime? What about on TV, films and other media outlets where women or men wearing bikinis, briefs, trunks or other swimwear? Are they also considered criminal?
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby esperasave » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:22 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:WHAT IS BALI,INDONESIA KNOWN FOR AND THE REST OF ITS 13,000 ISLAND NATIONS? WHAT DO THE MILLIONS OF TOURISTS ARE WEARING WHEN THEY ENJOY THE SANDS AND THE BEACH OF BALI. THEY ARE WEARING BIKINIS AND TRUNKS WITH INDONESIAN PEOPLE ARE WELCOMING THEM LIKE THAT. BESIDES, INDONESIA HAS BEEN SENDING BEAUTY CONTESTANTS IN ALL PAGEANTRIES FOR A LONG TIME AND ALWAYS PARTICIPATE WITH BIKINI COMPETITION. FURTHERMORE, IN ALL PUBLIC PLACES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WITH BEACHES OR SWIMMING POOLS AND IN THE MOVIES OR TV, PEOPLE COULD PORTRAY WEARING BIKINIS AND OTHER SEXY PARAPHERNALIA OR OUTFITS. IN THE OLYMPICS WHEN THERE'S SPORTS INVOLVING THE POOL AND ACROBATS, WHAT ARE THOSE COMPETITORS WEARING? ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T MAKE THIS A MAJOR ISSUE WITH WOMEN AT THE BEAUTY PAGEANTS OR ELSE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THOSE INSTANCES. IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. THE RELIGION OF ISLAM, IT'S
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Postby koji » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:00 am

Horrible. Anyway, it's Indonesia. TV showing skimpy clothing, but not for pageanta. What do you expect?
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:21 am

I'm not gonna shocked if Trans TV (where Ivan G worked as a host at a talk show called Brownis) will air MGI Final Show this Tuesday but they will not air the preliminary competition tonight?
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Re: MGI Scrapping The Sweimwear Competition?

Postby Prozac » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:11 am

esperasave wrote:
Prozac wrote:Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) & swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

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of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironic there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?





Wearing a Bikini at the beach and other pool side places is a crime? What about on TV, films and other media outlets where women or men wearing bikinis, briefs, trunks or other swimwear? Are they also considered criminal?


I asked a Lebanese friend about your comment and he said: It depends on where you live. In Tripoli, you can wear
bikini but we do not have public beaches in Tripoli!

In Saida, she can’t.

Outside Beirut, she can do that in Damour and in Tyr,

We still have that closed mindset in some regions. he said. I actually believe him. Another Lebanese friend Nawat
send me before a picture of her on the beach and she was in a bikini.

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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:00 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:
Prozac wrote:Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) & swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

I don't know if this is old news but Lebanon's archaic legal system means wearing a bikini is a no-no. The thousands
of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironic there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?





Wearing a Bikini at the beach and other pool side places is a crime? What about on TV, films and other media outlets where women or men wearing bikinis, briefs, trunks or other swimwear? Are they also considered criminal?


I asked a Lebanese friend about your comment and he said: It depends on where you live. In Tripoli, you can wear
bikini but we do not have public beaches in Tripoli!

In Saida, she can’t.

Outside Beirut, she can do that in Damour and in Tyr,

We still have that closed mindset in some regions. he said. I actually believe him. Another Lebanese friend Nawat
send me before a picture of her on the beach and she was in a bikini.



Miss Lebanon has swimsuit competition.
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Postby esperasave » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:01 pm

When it's Swimsuit competition, they are suppose to be wearing one piece or 2 piece bikini with no ADD ons. It defeats the purpose of showing how FIT and Healthy their bodies are of The Candidates if Sarong and other pieces would be included in their outfit to cover most of their physical bodies. Furthermore, The Candidates in all occasions of the competitions should be seen and zoomed to fit the screen, not far away to be watched on TV screen.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:19 pm


Leafing through the comments and responses above, I can see the clutches of "moral relativism" (if you know what I mean), even from among the self-entitled or the self-canonizing within this tribe. If I may ask, how boring can this planet get if every one else falls into the same mold, the same groove of expectations or undifferentiated mores of societal conduct? C'ome on guys, it's halfway through 2022 already and we're still thick in the head of this fallacious comparison thingy? Can't we be better than that?
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Postby renegade » Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:55 pm

Prozac wrote:Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) & wearing swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

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of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironic there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?





You are wrong so I want to correct you. Mindanao is Catholic Majority and not Muslim. All the major cities are majority Christian - Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan, Iligan and even Zamboanga. I think what you meant was ARMM which is just one region of Mindanao
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Postby poker_man » Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:18 am

In fairness kay Nawat ha, ni hindi nga makahost host ang Indonesia ng Miss Universe diyan kahit Glebova (2005) years pa ni President Trump nililigawan ang Indonesia.
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Postby esperasave » Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:06 am

renegade wrote:
Prozac wrote:Just an observation.

Bali (Hindu majority) is more liberal than Jakarta (Muslim majority) & wearing swimwear is allowed in Bali in the
beaches but not in Jakarta.

Manila (Catholic majority) is more liberal than Mindanao (Muslim majority) but swimwear is allowed in both regions.
What a difference a venue makes!

I don't know if this is old news but Lebanon's archaic legal system means wearing a bikini is a no-no. The thousands
of women parading along Lebanon's sunny beaches this summer in skimpy bikinis or strolling the city's pavements in
miniskirts or shorts will all technically be breaking the law.

It is ironic there was a bikini ban ... but no policing to implement the laws?





You are wrong so I want to correct you. Mindanao is Catholic Majority and not Muslim. All the major cities are majority Christian - Davao, Cagayan de Oro, GenSan, Butuan, Iligan and even Zamboanga. I think what you meant was ARMM which is just one region of Mindanao


The Spaniards during their colonization in The Philippines had tried hard for 300 years to convert The Muslims at The Southern Tip Part of Mindanao to Christianity but they would Always Meet with Resistance. The Spaniard's Homebase was in Zamboanga for all those years so that's the reason why The Locals were able to Learn and Adopt the Spanish linggo in their dialects but The Spaniards partly Failed to Convert The Muslims in all of Mindanao.
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Postby Fany » Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:50 pm

Well it’s not like the contestants were made to wear burkinis. The sportswear they wore is very form fitting and allows plenty for the judges to judge their fitness. Women don’t have to strip to thongs and bikinis to show they are fit. Indonesia is doing an amazing job.

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Fany wrote:Well it’s not like the contestants were made to wear burkinis. The sportswear they wore is very form fitting and allows plenty for the judges to judge their fitness. Women don’t have to strip to thongs and bikinis to show they are fit. Indonesia is doing an amazing job.



I agree, 1 year without a Swimsuit competition is not a big deal

I can live without seeing the girls wear Bikinis on stage. Indonesia is doing a great job as a host and that's what matters :)>-
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Postby ToiletPaper » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:24 pm

I SUGGEST THAT GIRLS WEAR HIJAB OR NIQAB DURING THE SWIMSUIT ROUND IN RESPECT FOR ALLAH. I CAN’T BELIEVE INDONESIANS ALLOW GIRLS NOT TO WEAR HIJAB OR NIQAB PROPERLY WHILE IRAN IS PROPERLY FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF QURAN! ALLAHU AKBAR IRAN!!!

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ToiletPaper wrote:I SUGGEST THAT GIRLS WEAR HIJAB OR NIQAB DURING THE SWIMSUIT ROUND IN RESPECT FOR ALLAH. I CAN’T BELIEVE INDONESIANS ALLOW GIRLS NOT TO WEAR HIJAB OR NIQAB PROPERLY WHILE IRAN IS PROPERLY FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF QURAN! ALLAHU AKBAR IRAN!!!



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Postby XAMURAI » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:32 am

poker_man wrote:In fairness kay Nawat ha, ni hindi nga makahost host ang Indonesia ng Miss Universe diyan kahit Glebova (2005) years pa ni President Trump nililigawan ang Indonesia.


Because Miss Universe is more expensive. Hosting fee is of galactic level compared to MGI which could be free for as long as there is a 50-50 sharing of profit. MUO does not share profits despite amassing millions for hosting fee alone.
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