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Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby Prozac » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:55 am

    

I was watching Christian Esquerra Facts First podcast: Nagmahjong Daw ang mga madre? Mali! and he was discussing
this in relation to "MIM In Malacanang" a pro- Marcos movie about the family's last 72 hours in Malacanang.

Christian Esguerra - a no-nonsense talk show host was in his best element and I was educated more on topics which
seemed alien to me but are actually happening right now in our midst. One of the term was not highlighted in this
podcast but it worth mentioning. Here are a few terms that I learned:

1. Passionate ignorance - Christian said each one of us has opinions about something. And there are Filipinos who have
different opinions that are contrasting and contradicting with what you have. If your opinion in your estimate is the most
legit & most accurate, the other side are also as passionate as you are about their beliefs.

"Ang tanong, Christian asked "ang pinaniwalaaan ba nila ay tama o hindi ...... or produkto lang ito ng kasinungalingan?"

Just like MIM and the Martial Law atrocities, after BBM won, the country was polarized and are divided into two warring
and vocal factions.

"This is the reason why I coined the term passionate ignorance, kasi nga nakapassionate mo sa isang bagay, tinitindigan
mo base as isang prinsipyo, pero ang prinsipyo mo naman baluktot." Hindi ka umaatras. Patay kung patay. Kung minsan
nagkamali na sa punto ... pero nakuha pa ring lumosot sa palusot.

2. Passion for ignorance. - Simply put - DENIAL. This was not discussed by Christian per se, but it is part and parcel of
the whole enchilada. Though complicated, the social and psychological motivations for denying its existence, and saying
tahimik ang buhay namin noong Marital Law, in that the individuals are dealing with a "traumatic knowledge" and by
remaining ignorant, unattached, and denying its existence is an attractive alternative ... or the safest. In times like this,
ignorance or not knowing anything becomes a better option as it contributes to the person's well-being... even his survival.

At a time when fake news, propaganda, political rhetoric, and dueling experts dominate the media, one expert will not
be surprised if a lot of people will consciously “embrace ignorance and denial to make this insane world a saner place
to live in.

3. Smart shaming- This is very true in youtube, Facebook and Twitter. It is the act of mocking someone who is smarter than
us. You try to state a dissent to those who abuse his freedom in socmed, whether simple or complicated, is sometimes met
with ill-placed jeers. Giving a strong opinion about MIM and Martial Law atrocities gets you dagger looks from across the room.
Correcting the director of MIM what they did on Cory Aquino playing mahjong with the nuns was an offshoot of poor research
and that they didn't understand what the American reporter was writing. and gets you called one of the worst labels in human
history. And passing any bar or board out there—law, medicine, engineering—is enough ammo for people to attack you with.

Christian E. reported one smart shamer when he made this reply: " So dapat kayo ang masusunod ... wala ng karapatan ang
iba... mag-presidente na lang kayo. OR ... "ayan nagbabalik ka na naman na sobrang self-rigteous ... ang gagaling nyo naman.

Ako ay may tanong. For some godforsaken reason, why do I have this sick feeling that our society makes it seem like being
smart is an embarrassing thing? Like we need to hide our intelligence and keep our mouths shut in order to fit in and save
ourselves from an onslaught of mockery.

4. False Balance - aka called “false equivalency. It refers disparagingly to the practice of journalists who, in their zeal to be
fair, present each side of a debate as equally credible, even when the factual evidence is stacked heavily on one side.So when
Ella Cruz said: History is like tsismis ... equal time was given to Ella to defend her claims, but journalists also made interviews
to historians like Ambeth Ocampo who have been hammered hard by MIM hardliners.

In Christian E. discussion about MIM, trolls have been harping one-liners like: Give the Marcoses their side of the story. Then
another commenter will pick it up and will say: |There is always two side of the coin. Narinig na namin ang sa inyo ... it is
time to give them the floor. The comment looked new but it was just recycled refrain to give it a fresh look. This is when
they try to invoke fairness to journalists: " You tried to show their side ... now its time to hear the Marcos version."

But Christian E challenge that with this question: " Kung ang pinpilian ba natin ay young nagsasabi ng totoo or yong nagkakalat
ng kasinungalingan dapat ba bigyan natin sila ng equal importance? Sabay natin silang kausapin sa isang interview like this?
Sa isang article dapat ba similar length of paragraphs and sentences devoted to each one of them?

Indeed Impartiality and balanced journalism - are such two lonely words in our society nowadays. The allocation of equal
space to opposing views and the objectivity by which journalists are making an effort to exclude subjective judgment of
their subjects are gargantuan tasks, and after a day of hard work, all we get is getting bashed and ridiculed.

I hoped I will not be bashed for this. I know how protective and clannish the factions are and they don't waste any ammunition
to hit you in the head when emotions gets in the way of their intelligence, I saw the video and I happen to agree with Christian
in some ways and I learned and understood some words that were quite vague to me before. That's why I share it with you.

Totoo ba na ang mga madre ay nagmamadyong sa history? Hindi ... kaya nga sinabi ni Ella na history is like ... Tsismis?

Here's the link to Christian Esguerra's Facts First: Magmamadyong daw Yong Mga Madre MALI!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DriV3AUNlL0





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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:52 am

That's being Anti-Christ. The Catholic Priest and Nuns would never play Mahjong and gamble. They would work hard for their own money. They are Nurses, Doctors and mostly teachers of Science and Math. Most importantly, they would teach Religion or Theology in Schools, College or University. If they would preach in Chruch, they would not ask Church Members for a 10% tithe from their salary because The Nuns and Priest Do work. Even the Founder of Catholicism Jesus Christ's, He works as a Carpenter. His 12 Apostles were also working as Fishermen. Pope John Paul 2 was also working as an Actor and doing constructions and other odd jobs during World War. While The Present Pope was also working doing odd jobs before he was called to The Faith. The Leaders of Catholic Church doesn't have to relay to no one because they know to find jobs themselves when situation arises. They are all College Graduates so they can teach students with their specialty area of studies. Most importantly, They have to STAND BY TO THE 3,000 YEAR OLD CATHOLIC PROPAGANDA WHICH ARE NO ABORTION, DIVORCE OR SAME SEX MARRIAGE. THOSE PROPAGANDA WERE ALREADY CEMENTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS ALREADY. IF THERE ARE PROPOSALS FROM ANTI CHRIST TO BREAK THOSE, THEIR MATERIALS WOULD GO TO THE FIREPLACE. OVER THE CENTURIES, THE VATICAN HAVE CATEGORICALLY DENIED THAT THEY HAVE SENT SOMEONE TO HELL OR INTENDED FOR HELL.
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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:59 am

IF THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING IN MALACANG DURING THE EDSA REVOLUTION BUT THERE WERE 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF EDSA CRYING AT THAT TIME. IT WAS ALL DOCUMENTED FROM THE STREETS, NEWS FEEDS AND LIVE EVENTS FROM LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WERE THERE TO WITNESS.
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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby Prozac » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:23 am

esperasave wrote:That's being Anti-Christ. The Catholic Priest and Nuns would never play Mahjong and gamble. They would work hard for their own money. They are Nurses, Doctors and mostly teachers of Science and Math. Most importantly, they would teach Religion or Theology in Schools, College or University. If they would preach in Chruch, they would not ask Church Members for a 10% tithe from their salary because The Nuns and Priest Do work. Even the Founder of Catholicism Jesus Christ's, He works as a Carpenter. His 12 Apostles were also working as Fishermen. Pope John Paul 2 was also working as an Actor and doing constructions and other odd jobs during World War. While The Present Pope was also working doing odd jobs before he was called to The Faith. The Leaders of Catholic Church doesn't have to relay to no one because they know to find jobs themselves when situation arises. They are all College Graduates so they can teach students with their specialty area of studies. Most importantly, They have to STAND BY TO THE 3,000 YEAR OLD CATHOLIC PROPAGANDA WHICH ARE NO ABORTION, DIVORCE OR SAME SEX MARRIAGE. THOSE PROPAGANDA WERE ALREADY CEMENTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS ALREADY. IF THERE ARE PROPOSALS FROM ANTI CHRIST TO BREAK THOSE, THERE MATERIALS WOULD GO TO THE FIREPLACE. OVER THE CENTURIES, THE VATICAN HAVE CATEGORICALLY DENIED THAT THEY HAVE SENT SOMEONE TO HELL OR INTENDED FOR HELL.


Esperasave, if you are reading the comments on Facebook it has gone to the dogs. Priest and nuns were never spared,
and they become the latest objects of ridicule when M@id in Malacanang hits the screen. It is a dog-eat-dog world
where people will have to do anything to be successful - (even success in online debates) even if that means harm-
ing others just to win points.

Salacious and lewd stories are being peddled to discredit nuns. OK granted some of these women from the convent
have gone astray, some went off the right path, but golly we are talking about a distorted and a made up scene in
MIM where nuns played Mahjong with the President, how come the discussion is zooming down the cliff of raunchy
obscenities?

The situation is an anomaly!



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Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:25 am

HIS EXCELLENCY AND HIS HOLINESS, Our Present Pope is A Living Testament that eventhough His Holiness is a Wheelchair Bound Person, HIS HOLINESS IS still active working to make sure that His Holiness will fight with tooth and nail FOR ABORTION, DIVORCE, GUN SELLING, DRUG USE AND SAME SEX MARRIAGE WILL NOT PENETRATE TO THE MAINSTREAM.
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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:33 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:That's being Anti-Christ. The Catholic Priest and Nuns would never play Mahjong and gamble. They would work hard for their own money. They are Nurses, Doctors and mostly teachers of Science and Math. Most importantly, they would teach Religion or Theology in Schools, College or University. If they would preach in Chruch, they would not ask Church Members for a 10% tithe from their salary because The Nuns and Priest Do work. Even the Founder of Catholicism Jesus Christ's, He works as a Carpenter. His 12 Apostles were also working as Fishermen. Pope John Paul 2 was also working as an Actor and doing constructions and other odd jobs during World War. While The Present Pope was also working doing odd jobs before he was called to The Faith. The Leaders of Catholic Church doesn't have to relay to no one because they know to find jobs themselves when situation arises. They are all College Graduates so they can teach students with their specialty area of studies. Most importantly, They have to STAND BY TO THE 3,000 YEAR OLD CATHOLIC PROPAGANDA WHICH ARE NO ABORTION, DIVORCE OR SAME SEX MARRIAGE. THOSE PROPAGANDA WERE ALREADY CEMENTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS ALREADY. IF THERE ARE PROPOSALS FROM ANTI CHRIST TO BREAK THOSE, THERE MATERIALS WOULD GO TO THE FIREPLACE. OVER THE CENTURIES, THE VATICAN HAVE CATEGORICALLY DENIED THAT THEY HAVE SENT SOMEONE TO HELL OR INTENDED FOR HELL.


Esperasave, if you are reading the comments on Facebook it has gone to the dogs. Priest and nuns were never spared,
and they become the latest objects of ridicule when M@id in Malacanang hits the screen. It is a dog-eat-dog world
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Salacious and lewd stories are being peddled to discredit nuns. OK granted some of these women from the convent
have gone astray, some went off the right path, but golly we are talking about a distorted and a made up scene in
MIM where nuns played Mahjong with the President, how come the discussion is zooming down the cliff of raunchy
obscenities?

The situation is an anomaly!





One Woman Plays Mahjong All night While The Other One, Party All Night.
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Postby Prozac » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:33 am

esperasave wrote:IF THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING IN MALACANG DURING THE EDSA REVOLUTION BUT THERE WERE 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF EDSA CRYING AT THAT TIME. IT WAS ALL DOCUMENTED FROM THE STREETS, NEWS FEEDS AND LIVE EVENTS FROM LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WERE THERE TO WITNESS.


Not discussed in this podcast are these terms:
1. historical revisionism
2. historical distortion
3. historical denial

If you say that everything was documented in the streets and have local and international media as witnesses, it
made sense that the director and their patroness of art want to puff the family's nose to make a brand new clean
feeling by way of the above three - historical revisionism, distortion and denial.

The movie became the vehicle of change and the manner it was done according to reports is spreading it thru lies
like the mahjong scene etc.

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Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:52 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:IF THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING IN MALACANG DURING THE EDSA REVOLUTION BUT THERE WERE 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF EDSA CRYING AT THAT TIME. IT WAS ALL DOCUMENTED FROM THE STREETS, NEWS FEEDS AND LIVE EVENTS FROM LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WERE THERE TO WITNESS.


Not discussed in this podcast are these terms:
1. historical revisionism
2. historical distortion
3. historical denial

If you say that everything was documented in the streets and have local and international media as witnesses, it
made sense that the director and their patroness of art want to puff the family's nose to make a brand new clean
feeling by way of the above three - historical revisionism, distortion and denial.

The movie became the vehicle of change and the manner it was done according to reports is spreading it thru lies
like the mahjong scene etc.



HISTORY is when there is some photos, video feeds, real footage, genuine documents presented while TSISMIS is by lip service saying that these things happened several days and this and that we did but no video recordings could attest to it. On the other hand, The Director of that Movie Made The Wrong Decision When part of The Movie was shown with those 3000 pairs of shoes. It only shows how greedy a Person could be. As a responsible Person, when you know that you're piling stuffs already, some of it should be given away especially to those that really needs one even if that was a part of token or gifts she received from benefactors. Therefore, those part of history should never be shown to the mainstream again because it's just not right. On the other hand, when Religious People like the Nuns, Priest or even His Holiness The Pope when they die, they are zero balance financially eventhough they've worked all their life. Unlike, some People when they die, they would give inheritance up to Billions of Dollars eventhough they live a life of ABORTION, DRUG USE, GUN SELLING AND OTHER ANTI CHRIST ACTS.
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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby esperasave » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:28 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:IF THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING IN MALACANG DURING THE EDSA REVOLUTION BUT THERE WERE 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF EDSA CRYING AT THAT TIME. IT WAS ALL DOCUMENTED FROM THE STREETS, NEWS FEEDS AND LIVE EVENTS FROM LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WERE THERE TO WITNESS.


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1. historical revisionism
2. historical distortion
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If you say that everything was documented in the streets and have local and international media as witnesses, it
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feeling by way of the above three - historical revisionism, distortion and denial.

The movie became the vehicle of change and the manner it was done according to reports is spreading it thru lies
like the mahjong scene etc.



You can't have historical revisionism, distortion and denial by just ONE MOVIE ALONE. It depends on how everyone works hard for better nation. Like Japan and Germany, they were able to turn The Table in their history to their advantage.
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Postby Prozac » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:28 am

I just want to share the reaction of Senator Nancy Binay and her support for the Carmelite sisters in Cebu as the nuns slammed
the depiction of them playing mahjong in the movie M@id in Malacanang. She said:

"Imaginary events can never be history. Historical trueness will always prevail over historical fiction. The path to healing
the nation is TRUTH-telling.
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Postby hauteegirl » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:47 am

when i was in HS, i have a school mate that used to live in the seminary for priesthood. he said that even priests also watch porn (not all) because for them priesthood is just a profession and most of the seminarians are horndogs.
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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:35 am

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Postby hauteegirl » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:35 am

My aunt told me that my cousin had to lie to get in the exclusive catholic school in manila. My cousin has to portray that she's rich to get in. Although, her family was able to pay for exorbitant tuition fees. I remember when I was in elementary, I also went to catholic school. I remember, they all had the students fill up these forms with check list on what kind of appliances you have at home. It seems like they wanna know how many students/families that are able to pay in case they wanna raise the enrollment/tuition fees :%))
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Postby esperasave » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:48 am

hauteegirl wrote:My aunt told me that my cousin had to lie to get in the exclusive catholic school in manila. My cousin has to portray that she's rich to get in. Although, her family was able to pay for exorbitant tuition fees. I remember when I was in elementary, I also went to catholic school. I remember, they all had the students fill up these forms with check list on what kind of appliances you have at home. It seems like they wanna know how many students/families that are able to pay in case they wanna raise the enrollment/tuition fees :%))


I studied in a Catholic School but they are expensive indeed than The Public or nonsectarian Schools because, they are high performing Schools. And now, I'm enjoying what The Catholic School had instilled to me from the education I have received from them.
hauteegirl wrote:My aunt told me that my cousin had to lie to get in the exclusive catholic school in manila. My cousin has to portray that she's rich to get in. Although, her family was able to pay for exorbitant tuition fees. I remember when I was in elementary, I also went to catholic school. I remember, they all had the students fill up these forms with check list on what kind of appliances you have at home. It seems like they wanna know how many students/families that are able to pay in case they wanna raise the enrollment/tuition fees :%))
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Postby Prozac » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:22 am

Darryl Yap had resorted to all types of controversies just to maintain interest in princess in Malacanang. He has mastered
the art of being obnoxious to the point of disrespect to anybody on the opposite aisle of the spectrum.

He thinks that what he is doing is funny. But being funny has a short-term life span though. It is funny to the EXPLOITER
(Darryl) but abusive and distasteful to the EXPLOITED (the nuns and Cory)
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Re: Tsismis: Nagmamadyong Pala ang Mga Madre

Postby Prozac » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:28 am

The people supporting Darryl Yap in all his socmeds controversies are just plain enablers and promoters of BAD MANNERS
and WRONG CONDUCTS all in the plain sight of impressionable youngsters. There is nothing that Darryl does that is wrong
... and they even goaded them to continue the attack and the demolition spree like there's no other.

The brigade of trolls wanting to defeat anyone at all cost has corrupted and debased themselves, their family, and even
the universities and colleges they came from, and for what ... just to be said that they are on the bandwagon? It's time for
the schools to remind their graduates of their excesses. And the lack thereof.
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