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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:17 am
by BEKBEK
Kaninang umaga ako ay nagpunta sa Senate upang ipasa ang aking letter , urging 9 senators to inhibit. Unfortunately, walang receiving office ngayon pero bagamat ganun pa man, nakapag submit naman na ako thru email sa office ni Sen. Tito Sotto and sa Secretary General.

Pagkatapos ko sa Senate, sumadya ako sa Supreme Court kasama si Atty. Al Vitangcol upang mag file ng Motion for Consolidation with Comment/ Opposition laban sa petition na isinumite ng ABS CBN sa Supreme Court na hinihiling na baliktarin ang decision ng NTC.

Madami ang nagtatanong bakit ko ito ginagawa.

May galit daw ba ako sa nasabing network. WALA ho akong galit sa ABS CBN.

Hindi ako kontra sa pag bibigay ng franchise sakanila ngunit bilang ABOGADO , tungkulin ko ang ipaglaban ang batas at ang tamang proseso nito.

Ang pag railroad ni Spkr. Cayetano ng bill sa congress ay labag sa ating constitution. Ang 1 bill ay dapat may 3 readings, on separate days upang mapagaralan din ng ibang mambabatas.
Isa pang pinaglalaban din natin, wala naman sa constitution ang magbigay ng PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY kapag EXPIRED na ang franchise. Ang franchise ay privilege---It's either you give it or you don't.

Ang sinumite ko namang letter sa Senate ay para maiwasan ang pag boto ng mga Senador na may conflict of interest. Na dapat sila ay mag inhibit dahil may bahid na kaagad ng kulay o pagka-bias ang kanilang magiging desisyon sa pag boto.

Naniniwala ako na dapat masunod ang Rule of Law.
Naniniwala din ako na NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. ------ Atty. Larry Gadon

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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 am
by Chupando's Angels
THE ABS-CBN PUZZLE
By Juan Ponce Enrile

1. The Constitution requires that: "The ownership and management of mass media shall be limited to citizens of the Philippines, or to corporations, cooperatives or associations, wholly-owned and managed by such citizens." [Article XVI, Section 11 (1)]

2. Since mass media business operations, like radio stations, broadcast televisions, or cable televisions use sovereign assets of the State - such as frequencies and public easements - in their business operations, they are required by the Constitution to have legislative franchises from Congress before they start their business and broadcast operations. And these franchises are granted by Congress for a specified and limited duration.

3. The Constitution provides: "No franchise, certificate, or any other form of authorization for the operation of public utilities shall be granted . . . for a longer period than fifty years. Neither shall any such franchise or right be granted except under the condition that it shall be subject to amendment, alteration, or repeal by Congress when the common good requires . . ." [Article XII, Section 11]

4. Way back, ABS-CBN acquired legislative franchises from Congress that enabled it to own, operate, and manage, as it did over the years, a vast mass media business enterprises. These mass media business enterprises made ABS-CBN a politically and economically powerful and influential business organization in the country.

5. But as the years went by, like all finite things in life, these ABS-CBN franchises reached the terminal end of their specified and limited existence; and they expired. For unknown reasons (at least to me), ABS-CBN was not able to have its franchises renewed or extended by Congress.

6. Hence when May 4, 2020 arrived, which was the terminal end of its franchises, and by virtue of the Constitution and the law, the National Telecommunications Commission issued a cease and desist order to ABS-CBN to immediately stop it from further continuing its mass media businesses and broadcast operations. Let it be known that the NTC is the government agency vested with the power and responsibility of supervision, adjudication and control over all telecommunications services in the country. It is, in fact, a creation and delegated agency of Congress.

7. The cease and desist order of NTC perforce abruptly stopped all the businesses and broadcast operations of ABS-CBN. As a consequence, political pandemonium broke loose and intervened. Blames splashed all around. When the political storm subsided somewhat, NTC ended up the bad guy and the convenient whipping boy.

8. All along, a legislative bill seeking to extend the expiring franchises of ABS-CBN was previously filed in the House of Representatives. But for unknown reasons, it languished in the House of Representatives for quite sometime now without action.

9. In the mean time, the Solicitor General filed with the Supreme Court a quo warranto proceeding against ABS-CBN for some alleged violations of its franchises and also of the constitutional mandate that "The ownership and management of mass media shall be limited to citizens of the Philippines, or to corporations, cooperatives or associations wholly-owned and managed by such citizens."

10. To seemingly assuage and dampen the rising political turmoil, the House of Representatives proposed to grant a temporary franchise to ABS-CBN so that it can resume its business and broadcast activities. That means a new law has to be enacted by Congress to grant ABS-CBN a temporary franchise.

11. How the House of Representatives can rush such temporary franchise bill is beyond my ken. It must comply with the Constitution's explicit mandatory directive that "No bill passed by either House shall become a law unless it has passed three readings on separate days, and printed copies thereof in its final form have been distributed to its Members three days before its passage, except when the President certifies to the necessity of its immediate enactment to meet a public calamity or emergency. . . .” [Article VI, Section 26 (2)]

12. But a question thus arises: Does Congress really have the legislative power or authority to grant such a temporary franchise to ABS-CBN - or to anyone else similarly situated - to enable it to carry on and continue the business of a mass media enterprise whose franchises have already reached their terminal end? I do not think so.

13. But, assuming for the sake of argument that Congress has, indeed, the constitutional power or the authority to grant ABS-CBN a temporary legislative franchise, despite the expiration of its old franchises, then other subsidiary questions would also follow: How temporary would the temporary franchise be? Or to put it more explicitly: How long a time would that temporary franchise last? Would the duration of that temporary franchise be deducted from the maximum period of fifty (50) years allowed under the Constitution for each and every legislative franchise granted by Congress?

14. Moreover, if the Supreme Court finally decides the quo warranto petition of the Solicitor General adversely against ABS-CBN, would the temporary franchise ipso facto be rendered invalid and of no further effect?

15. I am not sure. But, if it is not rendered ipso facto invalid and of no effect, then a Gordian Knot-like constitutional conundrum is created.

16. If the Supreme Court sustains the position of the Solicitor General in the quo warranto case against ABS-CBN and Congress, for whatever reason, would not repeal the law granting ABS-CBN a temporary franchise, one would see, for the first time in our legal history, a classic situation where two major branches of our free and democratic government - the Supreme Court and the Congress - taking opposite positions on a legal issue to the great advantage and benefit of a giant mass media business enterprise, like ABS-CBN, in direct violation of our Constitution. That would, indeed, be a shocking spectacle that, most likely, would immensely embarrass our country before the global audience.

17. Then comes another problem. How would the Philippine government at that point, treat the assets generated by ABS-CBN under the aegis of its temporary legislative, but unconstitutional, franchise? Would the Philippine government allow ABS-CBN to keep and enjoy the fruits of its violation of the Constitution? Well, it is indeed a hell of a legal conundrum!

18. In the wake of the ABS-CBN brouhaha some partisans raised the right to press freedom to defend the beleaguered mass media enterprise. They argued that NTC's cease and desist order violated ABS-CBN's press freedom.

19. With due respect to the ABS-CBN partisans, I could not see how that argument would fly. From the very start, ABS-CBN knew that its right to engage in mass media broadcast as a business is only for a specified and limited duration. It was only up to May 4, 2020, and not more. That was why the owners of ABS-CBN caused the filing of a legislative bill in the House of Representatives to extend the ABS-CBN's franchises. The specified terms of ABS-CBN's franchises are limitations on its press freedom. The press freedom of ABS-CBN as a business enterprise was not indefinite. It was circumscribed and limited by the provisions of its legislative franchises. Its franchises said -- only up to May 4, 2020.

Thank you.

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:47 am
by Barbie Dahl
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ABS-CBN is not crucial to this nation’s survival nor does its closure mark the end of press freedom. Hundreds of TV and radio stations and broadsheets will continue to purvey news and views. And there is the omnipresent social media wide open to both idiot and intellectual. In fact, the removal of this media giant will contribute to the levelling of the playing field and the strengthening of democracy.

For so many of us who cannot think of the future and whose minds are focused only as far as the next election, remember this: Marcos, Duterte – they are minor incidents in our history, but the oligarchic families will be with us much longer and will most likely be replaced by heirs who will continue to exploit our country and our people. The struggle to create a just and sovereign nation transcends these politicians and their oligarch allies. The Filipino oligarchy is our entrenched enemy – not I or those like me who see and know the truth. I’ve tried to be honest with myself. I know I am expendable, but not as much as the peasant who produces our food. I have to distance myself from self-righteousness knowing I can be wrong. I do not profit from telling the truth. I am reviled instead. Listen – all of you who resent me and wish me ill – I have nothing precious, no fiefdom to lose – only this life and the little of it that’s left. I’ll use it writing.

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:03 am
by Dragona Anaconda
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Kung may kahit konting kahihiyan pang natitira sa kanilang katawan, they should to inhibit themselves in passing a hurriedly corrupted franchise bill to favor abs cbn and/or its owners.

Conflict of Interest is obvious.

1. Sen. Grace Poe-Llamanzares = the family is doing business with the network. her adoptive mother is a contract artist and also doing business with the company. she receives regular monetary royalties.

2. Sen. Francisco Pangilinan = the wife and stepdaughter are contract stars of the firm. his daughter regularly appears on their television channel. the wife is a stockholder of the corporation.

3. Sen. Sonny Angara - the wife works as a management executive at the kapamilya network. she is also stock beneficiary under the company's option plan.

4. Rep. Cayetano (Taguig-Pateros) = is the wife of the House Speaker who benefits directly and indirectly with the business interests of the network.

5. Sen. Cayetano = she is part owner of the Cayetano & Associates Law Offices rendering regular legal and corporate services to the network.

6. Speaker Cayetano = is part of the Cayetano & Associates Law Offices retained by abs cbn broadcasting corporation. Openly manifested his bias for the business interest of the Lopez Family.

7. Sen. Juan Miguel Zubiri = the family of his in-laws and that of his parents are known family and business friends of the Lopez's.

8. Sen. Franklin Drilon = a senior partner of ACCRA law offices retained by the Lopez's. the senator is known for his biases for the network.

9. Sen. Manuel Lito Lapid = has been a contract artists of the network for several years prior to his election and re-election as senator. his film catalogue are part of the movie library of the network for which he receives monetary considerations.

7. Sen. Emmanuel Pacquiao = boxing bouts, television specials and movies of the Solon are aired on the network for which he receives monetary consideration.

8. Senate Pres. Vicente Sotto III = his family (brother & niece) are known top individual stockholders of the company. his family members are likewise doing business with the network.

9. Rep. Dan Fernandez (Laguna) = the former movie actor's "reported daughter-singer" is a contract artist of the network.

10. Sen. Ralph Recto = is married to movie & television actor Vilma Santos and step-dad to TV presenter Luis Manzano who are rendering services to the network.

11. Rep. Vilma Santos-Recto = TV & movie personality regularly commissioned by the network and it's subsidiaries. mother of network regular host Luis Manzano.

12. Sen. Jose Bautista II (Ramon Bong Revilla) = father of an actor appearing on a primetime series and in-law of prime time news co-anchor of the network.

13. Sen. Christopher Lawrence Go = his life story was featured on the kapamilya network and replayed on other subsidiaries of the network. by standards all features are compensated by the program & production company.

14. Sen. Sherwin Gatchalian = his reported fiancee, a former beauty queen is a regular cast on the network prime time.

There are about 24 members of the House whose family are directly or indirectly minor shareholders of stocks of the network.

Me, I have always believed that men and women are capable of self-respect, a sense of decency and love of country.

Matibay ang aking paniwala na marangal ang Pilipino. I pray, I am proven right.

--- Jay Zonsa

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:34 am
by Rosa Mystica
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
by Flordeliza Luningning
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 7:35 am
by Einstein Aristotle
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:57 am
by beautywatchnyc

so many unanswered questions, most of these ABS-CBN refused to answer The caveat: No matter how prolonged the silence, when enough people speculate, somebody always gets it right. Go Atty. Gadon, the greater majority are awaiting the final verdict, we thank you for your voluntary services making people understand the issues so they can form their own judgment.

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:06 pm
by Rosa Mystica
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Sa isang taped interview sinabi ni Norman Mangusin... na siya ang TUNAY NA MARCOS KASI daw...

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GINALAW ni Lacson (dating mayor ng Manila) si Imelda ng umaga.
Sa gabi naman daw GINALAW ni Ferdinand Marcos si Imelda!

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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:59 pm
by allaboutambot
From Opinion PH:

ABS-CBN tramples on the Constitution: 22% owned mainly by US and Singapore firms

SOME 22 percent of the shares of media conglomerate ABS-CBN Corp., now worth at least P3.5 billion, are owned by foreign companies, mainly the Los Angeles-based, privately owned The Capital Group, one of the world’s largest investment management firms.

Together with several other foreign firms, including the United Kingdom’s Prudential Plc (through its Singapore firm), the United States company received P1.3 billion in income out of ABS-CBN’s profits from 2015 to last year, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) reports show.

This is a blatant violation of Section 11, Article XVI of our Constitution: “The ownership and management of mass media shall be limited to citizens of the Philippines, or to corporations, cooperatives or associations, wholly-owned and managed by such citizens.”

This violation of the Constitution is one of the two main grounds that Solicitor General Jose Calida invoked in a request he made to the Supreme Court the other day to revoke ABS-CBN’s franchise.
In a similar constitutional violation case that Calida brought against the online news source Rappler Inc. and Rappler Holdings, he asked the SEC to revoke the two firms’ license to operate as corporations. The SEC agreed with Calida; the two firms appealed the case to the Court of Appeals.

Oligarchic

How ABS-CBN got to have substantial foreign ownership certainly looks like a case study of how oligarchic control of government is crucial for their wealth. Owned by the Marcos’ archenemies, the Eugenio Lopez clan, ABS-CBN disguised its acquisition of foreign funds when it issued though its shell company ABS-CBN Holdings (which has 36 percent of the media firm) in 2013 — at the height of its patron former president Benigno Aquino’s 3rd’s, power — P4.5 billion worth of what it called Philippine Depositary Receipts (PDRs). These entitled its holders to 36 percent of ABS-CBN Corp.’s shares the shell company had, giving them the profits from those shares.
ABS-CBN Holdings sold a huge block of these PDRs mainly to the US-based The Capital Group and subsequently to other foreign firms, with the firm reporting that 62 percent were held by foreigners. That computes to 22 percent of ABS-CBN Corp.’s shares (0.62 x 36 percent).

PDRs are a kind of security, which entitles its holder to a share of a company, as well as to any benefits from owning it. It has been a flimsy way for media companies to skirt the constitutional ban on any foreign funds in media, the legitimacy of which rests entirely on an SEC ruling or, as the case actually was during Aquino 3rd’s administration, its mere acquiescence.

PDRs as a means to cloak foreign money and even control in media firms were first used in 2012 by the Indonesian tycoon Antoni Salim to fund his MediaQuest, which became the holding company of the Philippine Star-TV 5 media conglomerate.

I had first reported such gross violation of the Constitution in 2013, but the Aquino 3rd government — of course — did nothing to ask the SEC or any court whether this was legal.*

Solicitor general

It was only when the Office of the Solicitor General (OSG) in 2016 asked the SEC to investigate if Rappler’s PDRs were in violation of the Constitution that the agency issued a ruling. The SEC upheld the solicitor general’s claim that these were unconstitutional.

One of the provisions of the SEC ruling read: “The constitutional and statutory prohibition with regard to foreign control of mass media is absolute. It means to isolate the Filipino masses from all foreign influence (even apparently ‘harmless’ ones) sent via ‘any medium of communication…’ The restriction on foreign equity prevents any scheme to grant rights attached to equity — even the guise an equity derivative.”

In that ruling, the “equity derivative” is so obviously Rappler’s PDR. It is the foreign investments’ disguise. Objective observers have agreed with the SEC: How could a corporate disguise overturn a provision of the Constitution?

Among other commentators, University of the Philippines professor Amelia Ylagan, PhD, in a column in BusinessWorld, a newspaper in the Indonesian magnate’s media empire, made this point regarding the Rappler case:

“Mass media companies here in the Philippines really must observe the all-Filipino rule for mass media in the Constitution. No ifs or buts, no indirect or backdoor sneaking in and around this. And what must not be forgotten in finance is never to invest or offer something, which you do not fully understand, unless, as the SEC implied — you precisely want to skirt the attendant issues.

PDRs

The OSG hit the nail right on the head when it quoted a maxim from Roman law: “Quando aliquid prohibetur ex directo prohibitur et per obliquum,” It means “what cannot be done directly can’t be done indirectly.” The solicitor general expounded: “If acts that cannot be legally done directly can be done indirectly, then all laws would be illusory.”

ABS-CBN had claimed that it issued the PDRs in order to raise capital it needed. One of its reports even had the gall to state that “it was to obtain foreign investments to increase their undervalued shares, and to allow foreigners to participate in mass media.”

But why didn’t it get local partners instead, or raise money in the local capital markets through bonds? The Lopezes obviously had been so possessive of ABS-CBN that they didn’t want local partners, unlike most Filipino tycoons who have struck alliances with other local magnates. They also wanted to scrimp on the costs involved in raising capital in the financial markets. “The Lopezes will be paying heavily for their reliance on a supportive government,” one magnate remarked.

I don’t think the Philippine elite will mount an attack against President Rodrigo Duterte to support ABS-CBN for their boo-boo in using PDRs as a flimsy disguise to get foreign money.

Media

Only two media companies are similarly using PDRs to get foreign money, which is violative of the Constitution: Salim’s Philippine Star-TV 5 conglomerate and GMA 7. The solicitor general’s case so far is only against ABS-CBN, encouraged by the SEC decision on Rappler. It is a forewarning to Salim and GMA 7 that they still have time to remove their PDRs to comply with the Constitution.
Salim’s media empire is puny compared to his other stakes in the country — the Manila Electric Co., PLDT Inc., Maynilad Water Services Inc., power generation firms and tollways — that he can easily give it up, and maybe even offer it to government to convert into the Philippine version of BBC, NHK or the mostly state-controlled newspapers in Singapore, South Korea and Japan.
The Ayalas have retreated, giving up control of Manila Water Co. Inc. to tycoon Enrique Razon after Duterte went after them for their reportedly onerous contract with the government. I don’t think GMA 7 will try to oust Duterte. It’s likely to buy back its PDRs from foreign holders of these, and then sell these to locals, especially since GMA 7 would be so attractive as an investment when ABS-CBN closes down.

Few are betting that the Supreme Court will rule against the solicitor general’s complaint, with its track record of leaning to strict adherence to the Constitution, especially its nationalist provisions.
The only other way the Supreme Court could rule is, as in the case of the case brought against PLDT for violating the Constitution’s limits on foreign equity in public utilities, is to ask the SEC to decide on it instead. Guess how the SEC would rule, given the Rappler case?
How will the PDR holders, especially the foreigners, react if the Supreme Court rules that the securities they bought for P4.5 billion are illegal, as these violate the Constitution? Corporate Armageddon for ABS-CBN.

With the Yellow Cult’s demise, its main propaganda machine since 1986 will also likely disintegrate.

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:17 pm
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:29 pm
by Xanadu Tinkerbell
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:52 am
by Bb. Maria Clara
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 1:01 pm
by Xanadu Tinkerbell
The proposal is a digital certificate that verifies if you have been vaccinated and was developed by MIT and Microsoft. They are looking at merging this with Bill Gates’ ID2020. It is entirely possible that this scare has been a deliberate plot to get people to accept these digital implants. Refuse, and you will be prohibited from social gatherings. Like 9/11 conditioned us to be x-rayed before entering a plane, now the next stage is to embed digital markers that they have been using in dogs and cats.

The United Nations’ WHO is part of this ID2020. Scaring the world and making people feel unsafe unless they are certified not to have this coronavirus just may be part of the plot behind the curtain.

The health industry is destroying the world economy and making people feel unsafe. Unemployment is skyrocketing as people lose their jobs and will be then conditioned that if they have been certified, then and only then will they be safe to return to the workforce.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 4:59 am
by Virginia Dalisay
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:36 am
by kristopherbondoc
bluff wrote:Sed lex dura lex,, am happy unti unti gumagana na justice system ng Pilipinas. Di gaya ng panahon ni ABNOY.


Bakit po si Imelda na convicted of graft, pero di pa rin po nakukulong?
Bakit po si Debold at Mocha nagmass gathering sa gitna ng covid pandemic pero di inaresto?

Tanong ko lang po, sed lex dura lex pa rin po ba kahit may exempted?
Di po ako dilawan at di rin ako dds, pero mahal ko bayan ko at nararapat lang ang pantay pantay na pagtingin sa tao sa ilalim ng batas, ano man ang political affliation mo.
And I, thank you!

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:41 am
by Barbie Dahl
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Of course it wouldn't make sense. You're holding multiple moral standards and picking only those that suit your lifestyle.

I could just simply tag " Oh look here comes another non-Christian to explain my Christian beliefs " and be done with it because that's really that best intellectual response that fits this - and I'm not even trying to be condescending. Because any further explanation would mean opening a can of theological arguments against someone who doesn't hold any theology in the first place.

For the sake of other Christians, however, let's take this as a case study and dissect the message.

◾️"Hindi pwedeng religious kang tao tapos supporter
kang "Du-turtle" at the same time."

1. By whose standard is this true?

2. Why do we never, ever hear liberals discuss what it means to support, vs, honor, vs submit, vs obey?

Why are they so allergic when people say "I'm not pro or anti"
Does their wokeness cause them to hate people who are not like them? Is this because they're too desperate to get people who are comfortable on the fence or even out of the fence to be in their side?

If you're really talking about the religious people (and I have a better position to judge in this case), no one really "supports" Duterte (by your definition of support). We honor his position, submit to his authority as President, and obey the law. When we say God bless President Duterte, it is out of knowing that God’s blessing on him will cascade into every Filipino. The person is irrelevant because we have many things we can actually question him for, things we disagree within our core, yet unlike liberals and Twitter wokes, these things do not permit us to dishonor the President and rebels against his authority.

We consider the Presidency as a God-given authority, and the government an institution where God also rules supreme. We consider every authority on earth as under God.

So even if you have someone who you think is worse than Duterte that rules the country, we still consider God's sovereignty - He is in control.

Unless you know the nuances here, all your rants will be in vain.

◾️ "Hindi pwede na you praise and worship a God of mercy
and then openly support someone who promotes murder
and makes rape jokes at the same time... It doesn't make sense."

If you understood the above reason, it will make sense.

But here, you are comparing the goodness of God vs the nature of man.

When God placed unjust leaders, tyrants, kings, to rule His own people in Israel, to teach them a lesson, to punish them, to change their hearts, why don't you think God can do the same for our country? Of course, because you don't know any of these.

You think God exists solely to make life beautiful, with butterflies and rainbows, with perfect forward tumbling and a crisp resounding clap. To make life comfortable for you. To do anything for you.

Heck, I don't think you believe God exists at all. Because if you think God's existence relies on Him pleasing you, then by all definitions, you have yourself as your own god, and this imaginary higher being you think maybe a genie.

Because when you say someone "promotes" murder, you are holding a foreign definition of what it means to promote, and what it means to murder.

When the President orders to kill or shoot people, aren't they within the context of being a threat or official enemies of the state? The rebels, communists, terrorists, any nuisance to society? Does this mean murder to you? Or has he prompted us, the citizens to actually kill people, murder or not?

But let's just say for example that one fine day he does say "murder your neighbours" or the rape joke doesn't stay anymore as a joke and he would command all of us to rape each other. What then?

That's where the previous distinction between "support" and "honor" comes into play.

When you say support, you're trying to paint all of us as mindless soldiers of the President - ready to do all his whims.

When we say "honor" we recognize and respect his authority on the Filipino people, yet honor is not blind obedience. We recognize the chain of command, the heirarchy of authority. We have the Law of the land, the Constitution, we can check to and follow, and when the Constitution fails, we have another, higher authority which is the moral law of God.

Do you see the difference now?

Do you see the distinction between "supporting" the position of leadership, vs "supporting" the person?

We obey his authority when the deed is commendable and do not violate the moral law of God. We do not obey when it goes against the moral law of God.

We honor the President, because he is the President.
We give due respect for his position, but the rest would depend on the admirability of his actions.

It's that simple.

Please read the above again and again because most of you will simply skip that part to blurt out your "fascist enabler!" "Ahh DDS!" narrative. You know that's not true, you just want to copy and paste rhetorical comments from your Twitter crowd.

But what you are asking us would be this:

1. Vote him out during the next election. That can happen even without our intervention. He might not even run.

2. Speak out on these "injustices".
Aside from the fact that many of us actually do, speaking out on the deeds will not bring us on your side to be constantly bashing the President in everything he does. What you have is a cult. You will never force Christians to "take" a side (most especially your side for obvious reasons.

There are many factors that has to be presented before you can objectively claim something as an injustice. And coming from your side who, justice is a term used so lightly because of the many things you think the government is entitled to provide to you. So maybe you could detail it down and let's see where we can go from there.

Aside from the fact that most, if not all, churches have dedicated ministries to actually help the society, the poor, the sick, the impoverished. etc.

◾️ "It makes you a hypocrite."

It doesn't. We have one universal standard that is higher than all man made legislation and morality. It would only seem to you like hypocrisy if you didn't understand that standard in the first place because you would only compare others with what you think they believe. And what you think others believe is insufficient, flawed. It lacks definition and it is made out of ignorance of Scripture.

◾️ "Baka nakakalimutan niyo that it was a corrupt
government that led to the crucifixion of Christ via death penalty.
Baka kelangan niyo ng refresher course..."

Speaking of ignorance of the Scripture, no one needs a refresher course. One only needs to read the Bible to easily know that it wasn't a "corrupt government" that led to the crucifixion of Christ.

- It was God's plan since the beginning. To say that it was a man made artifice that resulted in Christ's death is to say that God did not plan this Himself and did not know that His own Son would die.

It was necessary for Christ to die at the cross as the propitiation for God's anger on our sins.

A refresher course would have reminded you that the Government during the time of Jesus did not even wish for Him to die.

- Pontius Pilate's wife begged him not to kill the "Just" man.

- Herod, though he mocked Him, found no fault on Jesus.

- Pilate himself wished to release Jesus because for the life of him, he could not see anything wrong he has done according to their governance.

So, humanly speaking, was it really a "corrupt government" that led to the crucifixion of Christ?

Refresher course please.

No.

Who was it?

It was the mob. The people.

The self-righteous. The Sanhedrin, filled with Pharisees, Sadducees, the mob of people, of those who think they knew the word of God and falsely accuse Christ and His followers of disobedience against God.

Sounds familiar.

Sounds like Oh look here comes another non-Christian to explain my Christian beliefs

Sounds like pure Democracy when they wanted Jesus dead all because they don't like him. This was 33 AD's "cancel culture" by the woke people who claimed to understand the truth, but by God's standard are the blind ones.

Humanly speaking, Christ died because of impulsive emotional activists without Twitter or TikTok. The government did its best to protect Him.

Yet it did reveal the heart of these biblical-age woke people.

At the first opportunity to release an actual criminal, they chose to release Barabbas, a destabilizer of the government (sounds familiar) and a murderer.

They chose someone who represented them in a much extreme way. None of them knew how to submit to the governing authority, but are too weak for an insurrection. And none of them knew how to love genuinely, so they commit murder in their hearts.

Barabbas was a mirror image of them and they wanted to see themselves free by condemning the innocent.

So if there's anyone to blame why Christ was crucified, it certainly wasn't the government. It's because stupid people were allowed to speak and voice their opinion. The same how today stupid people have Twitter and even TikTok accounts to virtue signal and project their lack of moral and spiritual integrity.

◾️ "So if Catholic ka or religious ka, walk the talk.
Practice what you preach.
Hindi pwede yung alive alive ka tapos you don't value the sanctity of life."

In doctrine, sanctity of life is inseparable with sanctity of the family, by which under normal circumstances provides and promotes the sanctity of life.

Your rainbow colored lifestyle defeats both. Period.

Yet here you are doing front flips to lecture us about it. Walk the talk. Practice what you preach.

But you aren't really preaching for this. You're picking what suits your lifestyle, right? By the same mouth that says sanctity of life you breathe patayin si Duterte at kanyang mga DDS, maybe subtly. Others loudly. Others subconsciously. Others offering a 50 million reward. The same murder committed in the heart.

◾️ "Hindi pwede yun. So kung may kaibigan ka na DDS, send nyo to.
Baka sakaling may mag click sa kanila."

The moment you try to use DDS as the counter label for Dilawan, you've destroyed your virtue signalling credibility in mere 3.65 seconds. And I know liberals are very fond that, to dismiss the dignity of a person based on the name they shade and cast on the ballot boxes.

I do not deny the fact that there are indeed "DDS" people, the same way there are "Dilawan". But when the guy on the video wanted to interchange "religion" and "DDS" it's not anymore making sense, even for him. Because unlike those who you want to call DDS, we don't give support to the Presidential position because of personality politics, because he is a Duterte, but because we are to honor that authority that God has given him.

"So you are willing to live under a Fascist?!"

Friend, if you've read all that and still ask questions like this, you're still not getting the whole point.

I'm willing to live under any kind of government, because my joy and my hope is not in any political ideologies, in any President. Christians have lived through the darkest of all regimes, yet survived because they don't put their hope in this life, but in the after.

That is why for the faithless people, they are miserable and desperate in wanting this society, the country to become comfortable. Is this wrong? To their merit, it isn't. But if that's all you are after, and you spend majority of your time wallowing in how you think your leader sucks. You're not being wise about it.

Do not be surprised when some people cannot understand this, even after reading this, because they will always want to use your faith against you even if they don't have any vested interest nor respect to the faith you hold. Nor do they know anything about the Bible and the God who we worship. Even within ourselves we find it hard to understand this topic unless we know about Man's Free Will (or lack of) and God's Sovereignty, how much more would it be impossible to understand for people who do not have any idea about these things? You will see how mad they get when you mention that the office of the president is "God-given". This blows their mind and will immediately conclude how this is ridiculous it is for them. They get triggered like never before "God-given!??!!". They will never reconcile how a foul-mouthed President can sit in a God-given position. Heck even until now they don't understand that the respect for authority has nothing to do with the specific person in that place. You will know these as you read the comments.

They will NEVER understand that it is not imperative for a Christian to vote and support only those that have Christian "qualities". Never. And they will keep guessing and use twisted arguments, but they will never understand this because they do not really believe there is any higher authority above the President. They do not believe in the redemption done in the cross. Their worldview will not permit them to understand. "Fascist Enabler" is their new battecry against anyone who does not identify as a DDS or a Dilawan.

Before you're hoping about something that would "click" in the minds of "DDS" and the "religious", make sure the message is concise, clear, and actually believable.

So, bottomline, I am very sorry if we're not "speaking out" the way you want us to. We will help, as we have helped the society, in our own ways, through tangible actions, and electing people who will best advance the interest of God and of the Filipino people. So yeah I agree, see you in 2022.

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:16 am
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by Hu Yu Hai Ding
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:39 am
by Dragona Anaconda
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Sa lahat Ng nasa ANAKBAYAN,

ANAK BAYAN kamo kayo?

Sigurado kayo? Drink your poison yourselves! Anak bayan tapos kayo ang nangugulo sa bayan! Anak Terorista Ng Bayan yan ang angkop na description sa inyo!

5 REASONS kung bakit ayaw nyo sa ID System:

1. Mapilitan kayong magkaroon nito at makilala ng lubusan ang tunay ninyong pagkakilanlan (identity).

2. Kung makilala na kayo sa record Ng Gobyerno, pwes madali kayong madampot at matrace sa inyong mga activities sa CPP NPA dahil kayo ang nasa mass propaganda committee sa lipunan.

3. At kung may ID System na mandatory, malamang di magkaroon nito ang mga combatants ninyo sa bundok. No ID means rebelde, wanted notorious criminals. Yon

4. Kung mga checkpoints at hiningi ang ID at Wala kayong maipakita, mapornada ang paghatid ninyo ng supplies sa bundok.

5. Sa pangkalahatang, ang National ID System ay isang dagok sa inyong ideolohiya, pagkakilanlan Ng inyong nasasakupan, pagkapornada sa inyong operasyon at supplies at malimit ang inyong mga galaw hanggang sa
mamatay ang inyong walang kwentang ideolohiyang asong ulol na umaatungal para masungkit ang buwan!

Basag! SO SA NATIONAL ID KAYO ANG MAGING INUTIL!

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:17 am
by Little Mermaids
Sabi ng kabilang parlor. Bakit tinatanggal ang ABS CBN? Malawak ang reach nya. Nakakatulong. And it is better to have more rather than less tv and radio stations.

Sasagutin ko yan.

ABS CBN is a virtual monopoly. And they are breaking the law.

They have more stations than PD 576A allows. They illegally have been using a black box with 5 unregistered channels. They have a cable franchise that locks out small players and unfairly dominates that market. In all the voices in broadcast, ABS CBN is the strongest and loudest and we keep allowing them to get so strong and loud that no one else LITERALLY is heard. In doing so, they are breaking the law.

Did you say there should be more tv and radio stations? There should be. But ABS CBN drowns out other participants. Kills off other progam and content providers, dumbs down the population and creates a virtual dictatorship of opinion.

And they are breaking the law.

Read PD 576A. And you will see that this network's reach and depth and breadth and scope are not good things.

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:44 am
by ESMERALDHA
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:03 am
by beautywatchnyc

The lawbreaker and kingmaker has to cease operations. They are not in service to the Filipino people but merely to their own pockets. Greed and avarice has to end right here and now!

Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:37 am
by DARNA.
Nangangamoy dribble ang House sa pag discuss ng prankisa ng ABS CBN. Next Monday na daw uli ang hearing. Ano ito? Buying time? nangako si Speaker Cayetano na tapos na by July so... bakit slow down?

At bakit mahalaga sa kanila ang pag punta ni SolGen? Alam naman nilang hindi siya dadating. Calida is too smart to walk into that trap.

And why only pure appeal to emotion ang ABS? Wala na ba silang argumento o they plan to spring a surprise?

Tama ba yung dinig ko? 400 tax cases against ABS CBN? [-X :D/ [-X

Huhuhu. Nakakaiyak naman nung video ng ABS CBN. Matapos sabihin ni Karlo Katigbak na hindi sila nagpapaawa, Roll VTR! cue in sentimental music! Pasok mga ordinaryong mamamayan na nagbibigkas ng script ng pagmamakaawa sa nagbibigay aliw! impormasyon! tulong sa sakuna!

Teka, sila ba yon?

11k daw ang mawawalan ng trabaho. Pero 2,661 lang daw ang regular employees nila sabi ni Congressman Marcoleta. Puro violation ng labor standards.

Dapat ngang umiyak ang mga empleyado. Especially yung mahigit 8k na hindi makakatanggap ng benepisyo, na malunkot ngayon dahil mae-endo sila.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 1:42 am
by Little Mermaids
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Re: ON ABS-CBN TEMPORARY (?) CLOSURE...

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:25 am
by Don Facundo Kurikong
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