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HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:20 pm
by mrgary
As a businessman, I just hope that having two more titles to make a total of six on the finals night will be a lucrative and prudent move for Vegafria. I think the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't have enough sponsorship to fill the void despite the four titles under his management. I think he also needs to move his local pageant earlier than August to fully prepare our candidates. It'll be wise if he schedules his pageant in late June or early July to rev up his business franchise and to give ample time especially for the winners to prepare for their respective international competitions. This way, the pageant fever and momentum that happen from late January to March for Binibining Pilipinas and late April til mid-May for Miss Earth Philippines will benefit Miss World Philippines in terms of sponsorship, quality of candidates, and fan/audience support because the pageant fever is still high. Staging it in August is late and doesn't make sense at all in terms of marketing strategy, preparation and revenue. If possible, Vegafria also needs to move to ABS-CBN to stage his local pageant because GMA has quite a poor record when it comes to promoting pageants on television. If the contract with GMA is still binding, then Vegafria needs to go back to the drawing board with his legal team and GMA bosses to discuss the future of this local pageant.

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(Miss World Philippines National Director Arnold Vegafria and MWO President Julia Morley)

Right now, Miss World Philippines as a business franchise looks like an aimless wanderer who doesn't have any point of view or direction except to just gather ingots of gold and precious metals inside his sacks along the way. BPCI is so clear-cut in their objectives as an organisation and I suggest that Miss World Philippines must also be vivid and strong on this. Vegafria must bring these ingots of gold and precious metals to the marketplace to trade them for real currency. He is franchising Philippine titles for Miss Multinational, Miss Eco International and Reina Hispanoamericana (aside from Miss World, ugh!) and yet there isn't any buzz at all as to what Miss Multinational is all about, its mission statement, years of existence, etc.,or how Miss Eco International differs from Miss Earth, and how the Philippines can tackle the issue of possibly bringing the Spanish language to Philippine curriculum to stir up the interests of the Filipino public, or to just simply elicit a reaction to gather a Filipino audience for Reina Hispanoamerica. Zero, nada, zip, zilch! Awareness brings sponsorship, folks.

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(Sophia Senoron, Miss Multinational 2017)

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(Teresita Ssen "Winwyn" Marquez, Reina Hispanoamericana 2017)

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(Cynthia Thomalla, Miss Eco International 2018)

Vegafria's Miss World Philippines title is already in a danger zone because Filipinos dislike Miss World as an organisation. As a prudent businessman, how can he salvage his business without compromising the other franchises? Answer: Bring constant introductions of these new pageants to the mainstream. Since Maureen Montagne and Kimi Mumford's victories at Miss World Philippines 2018 last October 7th, we still haven't heard from them neither on television nor social media. I already forgot how Mimi Mumford looked like. Is Maureen still in the Philippines? Where are these girls right now?! Vegafria as a national director is still caught in a time warp. Marketing is the easiest avenue in business to strengthen these days because of social media. He must utilize and maximise these resources because they're free. Why does he prioritise the staging of Mr World when there isn't any money in male pageants?! Focus on where the money is. Concentrate on the girls. Create a buzz, evoke responses and be ever constantly present. These things will help mobilise and bump up a dying business franchise. SMH.

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(Kimi Mumford, Miss Multinational Philippines 2018)

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(Maureen Montagne, Miss Eco International Philippines 2018)

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:27 pm
by lutosfeet
If I were him, I will drop everything =;)) =;)) =;))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:32 pm
by mrgary
lutosfeet wrote:If I were him, I will drop everything =;)) =;)) =;))


If I were he, I would concentrate on strengthening RHA, MM, and MEI first before taking two or more franchises. I would also let go of the MW franchise because the risks outweighed the benefits.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:34 pm
by hahahahuhu
Too much blah blah (sorry), but Miss World is not marketable in the Philippines and it will remain so in the coming years .... the Mess World fiasco will remain in Filipino memory specially that CAT won the Miss Universe. Beside its a very BORING pageant (and obviously the winner is pre-determined).

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:35 pm
by lutosfeet
mrgary wrote:
lutosfeet wrote:If I were him, I will drop everything =;)) =;)) =;))


If I were he, I would concentrate on strengthening RHA, MM, and MEI first before taking two or more franchises.


Wala eh engot din tong si Vegafria, masyadong nag mamadali na abutin ang level ng Binibining Pilipinas but sadly look at the representative he is sending, lack of preparation, training and support. At ngayon nagpapagamit pa kina Julia sa cookfest nya =;)) =;)) =;))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:39 pm
by mrgary
hahahahuhu wrote:Too much blah blah (sorry), but Miss World is not marketable in the Philippines and it will remain so in the coming years .... the Mess World fiasco will remain in Filipino memory specially that CAT won the Miss Universe. Beside its a very BORING pageant (and obviously the winner is pre-determined).


I don't care about Miss World. My concern is how to help Vegafria improve his business to stay afloat since he doesn't want to drop Miss World.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:45 pm
by hahahahuhu
mrgary wrote:
hahahahuhu wrote:Too much blah blah (sorry), but Miss World is not marketable in the Philippines and it will remain so in the coming years .... the Mess World fiasco will remain in Filipino memory specially that CAT won the Miss Universe. Beside its a very BORING pageant (and obviously the winner is pre-determined).


I don't care about Miss World. My concern is how to help Vegafria improve his business to stay afloat since he doesn't want to drop Miss World.


But that's exactly the point. The Miss World defines the success of his foray in pageantry - The MW itself defines his pageant business. What is unmarketable will not sell. It's either he drops it or just keep it afloat until such time Filipinos would be interested in MW again (which I doubt in the coming years).

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:50 pm
by mrgary
lutosfeet wrote:
mrgary wrote:
lutosfeet wrote:If I were him, I will drop everything =;)) =;)) =;))


If I were he, I would concentrate on strengthening RHA, MM, and MEI first before taking two or more franchises.


Wala eh engot din tong si Vegafria, masyadong nag mamadali na abutin ang level ng Binibining Pilipinas but sadly look at the representative he is sending, lack of preparation, training and support. At ngayon nagpapagamit pa kina Julia sa cookfest nya =;)) =;)) =;))


He definitely lost his momentum. When Winwyn, Cynthia and Sophia won their international competitions last year, Vegafria failed to maximise their exposures on television and social media to help promote their pageants particularly Winwyn's. Philippines as the only Latin nation in Asia is very unique. The Spaniards only left our country at the turn of the century in the 1900's. The issue of bringing back the Spanish language into our public school system could have sparked interests, debates, and discussions in the country since Winwyn was the first Filipino to win that Latin pageant. It could've been a fresh take on the matter but Vegafria failed to see that angle of opportunity. When Cynthia and Sophia won their titles, Vegafria could've invited the organisers of MEI and MM pageants to visit the Philippines to introduce these pageants to mainstream Philippines. If money were an issue, then he could've created a televised Facetime with these organisers and our winners and posted them on YouTube so as just to give us a glimpse of what these pageants were all about. SMH!

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS Miss World Philippines BUSINES

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:56 pm
by mrgary
hahahahuhu wrote:
mrgary wrote:
hahahahuhu wrote:Too much blah blah (sorry), but Miss World is not marketable in the Philippines and it will remain so in the coming years .... the Mess World fiasco will remain in Filipino memory specially that CAT won the Miss Universe. Beside its a very BORING pageant (and obviously the winner is pre-determined).


I don't care about Miss World. My concern is how to help Vegafria improve his business to stay afloat since he doesn't want to drop Miss World.


But that's exactly the point. The Miss World defines the success of his foray in pageantry - The MW itself defines his pageant business. What is unmarketable will not sell. It's either he drops it or just keep it afloat until such time Filipinos would be interested in MW again (which I doubt in the coming years).


He can still obstinately keep his Miss World franchise even if we all knew the ill reputation of this international organisation. I think the best thing for Vegafria to do is to change the name of his pageant with the emphasis that all titles are of equal importance since he now owns so many pageant franchises. This way, he can attract more sponsorship for his business.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:10 pm
by hokuto1129
Good points.

But, I think the verb must be "save". Because his pageant is dying. 8-> 8-> 8->

Just saying.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:17 pm
by hahahahuhu
And may I add, his judging in the MW finals is making matter worse. It's lack of prudence, how can an investor invest in an organization owned by a person without delicadeza.

He's making all the wrong moves and he's making himself unloveable too.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:24 pm
by mrgary
hokuto1129 wrote:Good points.

But, I think the verb must be "save". Because his pageant is dying. 8-> 8-> 8->

Just saying.


True.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:59 pm
by Oscillate
Vegafria is venturing in a very futile business. 8-} 8-} 8-}


mrgary wrote:
hokuto1129 wrote:Good points.

But, I think the verb must be "save". Because his pageant is dying. 8-> 8-> 8->

Just saying.


[size=150][color=#800000]True.


I think the correct term is REINCARNATE or RESURRECT! charot. That cooking show died long time ago.[/size][/color]

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:28 pm
by The_saurus
I think, for Miss World to gain the "prestige" it once had in the Philippines, they have to go back to the BBPCI (Not that Miss World really matters. we can actually live without a Miss World title, Megan's win was just a bonus)

With rumors of losing the Miss Universe Franchise, Miss World Philippines can return to Bb. Pilipinas now as one of the 2 main crowns, International being the other. I think that's the only way Miss World can salvage its brand in the country.

But then again, Im not pretty sure Madam Stella would accept them back, though. :%))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:27 pm
by Kasulasula Sokangamoyniya
Arnold Vegafria should just jump off of the Marikina River.

He’s too dumb to be saved. =O/

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:00 pm
by Iamder8
To improve the brand of Miss World Philippines, following assumptions should be held: 1) He’s willing to gamble money. 2) He needs an excellent general manager and planning team.

Possible solutions:

1) Hold the Miss World pageant in the country. Make sure the Miss World pageant is like a Miss Universe pageant only the packaging is Filipino yet Global. If swimsuit is still the issue, it could pattern out the same competition as of those of Islamic beauty pageants minus the hijabs.

2) Send a Megan Young or Catriona Gray caliber who could not qualify in Binibini due to residency or posing nude. Even if she wins or not at least that girl had a chance to represent the Philippines in an international pageant.

3) With regards to the minor pageants, I think we could live with what other forumers have suggested but I think they were put there to entice more girls to compete or at least set as a training ground for Binibini. However, if Arnold wants to milk these pageants, he could always contact them to have events in the Philippines or book the minor pageant’s winners to some project in the Philippines or whatever geographic business that Arnold has.

The bottomline, Miss World is not sellable in the Philippines. Having a second Miss World crown will make Filipinos forgive Miss World. But in order to do that Arnold has to agree with the terms of Julia Morley. To the mere fact we’re nit yet winning crowns aside from the fact that we send good caliber girls is that we have not yet met the demands of Miss World. Arnold has to be like China in order to flourish his Miss World Philippines Business.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:24 pm
by Iamder8
Ito na rin ang magandang analogy - on Network Wars between ABS-CBN at GMA. Though for you guys irrelevant, dahil hindi nga marketable ang Miss World sa Pilipinas, let’s give it a try. Bakit mas gusto ng Metro Manila ang GMA kaysa ABS at Bakit mas gusto ng probinsya ang ABS? Anong shows ang mas pinapanood sa GMA di ba balita tapos sa ABS mga teleserye. Maybe, Arnold needs a niche where he could provide a new market. Sa Binibini, ang rason para sumali, Miss Universe. Kailangan may magandang rason para sumali ka sa Miss World Philippines or sumali sa Miss World in general. Kailangan the girl would like to compete in Miss World whether she wins it or not. Ang dapat pagtuunan din ng Miss World Philippines to up the girl’s chances of winning ay swak siya sa monkey business ni Manay Hulya. Sabihin niyo man na corrupt at cooking show ang Miss World, pustahan aabangan niyo pa rin ang mananalo. Dapat ang girl na ipapadala natin ay bukod sa Catriona or Megan Young caliber dapat pang-Business Savvy purposes na rin. Dapat may insider din tayo kung ano ang bet ni Hulya sa next winner year per year. As a conclusion, to help Miss World Philippines, kailangan malaman ni Arnold ang hanap ni Tandang Hulya for Miss World each year ( pusta ko nagbabago iyan for years for business interest) para ma-package natin ang merlat natin sa demands ng Miss World.

Also, I agree na Miss Universe country tayo pero for sure naman, impossibleng wala nang bekis ang susubaybay sa Miss World. Huwag ako besh.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:55 pm
by kurtij
HE MUST UNDERGO BRAIN TRANSPLANT IN ORDER TO SAVE HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:23 pm
by mrgary
Iamder8 wrote:Ito na rin ang magandang analogy - on Network Wars between ABS-CBN at GMA. Though for you guys irrelevant, dahil hindi nga marketable ang Miss World sa Pilipinas, let’s give it a try. Bakit mas gusto ng Metro Manila ang GMA kaysa ABS at Bakit mas gusto ng probinsya ang ABS? Anong shows ang mas pinapanood sa GMA di ba balita tapos sa ABS mga teleserye. Maybe, Arnold needs a niche where he could provide a new market. Sa Binibini, ang rason para sumali, Miss Universe. Kailangan may magandang rason para sumali ka sa Miss World Philippines or sumali sa Miss World in general. Kailangan the girl would like to compete in Miss World whether she wins it or not. Ang dapat pagtuunan din ng Miss World Philippines to up the girl’s chances of winning ay swak siya sa monkey business ni Manay Hulya. Sabihin niyo man na corrupt at cooking show ang Miss World, pustahan aabangan niyo pa rin ang mananalo. Dapat ang girl na ipapadala natin ay bukod sa Catriona or Megan Young caliber dapat pang-Business Savvy purposes na rin. Dapat may insider din tayo kung ano ang bet ni Hulya sa next winner year per year. As a conclusion, to help Miss World Philippines, kailangan malaman ni Arnold ang hanap ni Tandang Hulya for Miss World each year ( pusta ko nagbabago iyan for years for business interest) para ma-package natin ang merlat natin sa demands ng Miss World.

Also, I agree na Miss Universe country tayo pero for sure naman, impossibleng wala nang bekis ang susubaybay sa Miss World. Huwag ako besh.


I am so sorry for the negative reputation I gave you. It was an accident. I guess my thumb was too big to press the thumb up button. At any rate, I gave you extra positive points on your other posts. Mea culpa.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:06 pm
by Iamder8
mrgary wrote:
Iamder8 wrote:Ito na rin ang magandang analogy - on Network Wars between ABS-CBN at GMA. Though for you guys irrelevant, dahil hindi nga marketable ang Miss World sa Pilipinas, let’s give it a try. Bakit mas gusto ng Metro Manila ang GMA kaysa ABS at Bakit mas gusto ng probinsya ang ABS? Anong shows ang mas pinapanood sa GMA di ba balita tapos sa ABS mga teleserye. Maybe, Arnold needs a niche where he could provide a new market. Sa Binibini, ang rason para sumali, Miss Universe. Kailangan may magandang rason para sumali ka sa Miss World Philippines or sumali sa Miss World in general. Kailangan the girl would like to compete in Miss World whether she wins it or not. Ang dapat pagtuunan din ng Miss World Philippines to up the girl’s chances of winning ay swak siya sa monkey business ni Manay Hulya. Sabihin niyo man na corrupt at cooking show ang Miss World, pustahan aabangan niyo pa rin ang mananalo. Dapat ang girl na ipapadala natin ay bukod sa Catriona or Megan Young caliber dapat pang-Business Savvy purposes na rin. Dapat may insider din tayo kung ano ang bet ni Hulya sa next winner year per year. As a conclusion, to help Miss World Philippines, kailangan malaman ni Arnold ang hanap ni Tandang Hulya for Miss World each year ( pusta ko nagbabago iyan for years for business interest) para ma-package natin ang merlat natin sa demands ng Miss World.

Also, I agree na Miss Universe country tayo pero for sure naman, impossibleng wala nang bekis ang susubaybay sa Miss World. Huwag ako besh.


I am so sorry for the negative reputation I gave you. It was an accident. I guess my thumb was too big to press the thumb up button. At any rate, I gave you extra positive points on your other posts. Mea culpa.


No problem mamsh!

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:13 pm
by hokuto1129
mrgary wrote:
Iamder8 wrote:Ito na rin ang magandang analogy - on Network Wars between ABS-CBN at GMA. Though for you guys irrelevant, dahil hindi nga marketable ang Miss World sa Pilipinas, let’s give it a try. Bakit mas gusto ng Metro Manila ang GMA kaysa ABS at Bakit mas gusto ng probinsya ang ABS? Anong shows ang mas pinapanood sa GMA di ba balita tapos sa ABS mga teleserye. Maybe, Arnold needs a niche where he could provide a new market. Sa Binibini, ang rason para sumali, Miss Universe. Kailangan may magandang rason para sumali ka sa Miss World Philippines or sumali sa Miss World in general. Kailangan the girl would like to compete in Miss World whether she wins it or not. Ang dapat pagtuunan din ng Miss World Philippines to up the girl’s chances of winning ay swak siya sa monkey business ni Manay Hulya. Sabihin niyo man na corrupt at cooking show ang Miss World, pustahan aabangan niyo pa rin ang mananalo. Dapat ang girl na ipapadala natin ay bukod sa Catriona or Megan Young caliber dapat pang-Business Savvy purposes na rin. Dapat may insider din tayo kung ano ang bet ni Hulya sa next winner year per year. As a conclusion, to help Miss World Philippines, kailangan malaman ni Arnold ang hanap ni Tandang Hulya for Miss World each year ( pusta ko nagbabago iyan for years for business interest) para ma-package natin ang merlat natin sa demands ng Miss World.

Also, I agree na Miss Universe country tayo pero for sure naman, impossibleng wala nang bekis ang susubaybay sa Miss World. Huwag ako besh.


I am so sorry for the negative reputation I gave you. It was an accident. I guess my thumb was too big to press the thumb up button. At any rate, I gave you extra positive points on your other posts. Mea culpa.


Don't worry Mrgary, i gve him +points. To balanced out the negative you hit. Joke.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 pm
by Yna Magenta
Sa truth lang mas kailangan tulungan muna ni lola jules ang paygeant nya kesa ng mga french fries holders ang kanila =O/ =/

Ramdam kes na spageting pababa na ang popularity ng paygeant ni lola kahit wit pa nangyayari ang 2016 cookingfest =O/ =/

Mas may excitement pa ang MI, ME, atbp. dahil alam mong may lejitimong pinaglalabanan ang mga merly (may tunay na judges at judging na ganap kasi :%)) ), yung tipong alam mong may magagawa pa sila para mapansin/manalo kahit hindi sila frontrunners o favorito ~X(

Di tulad sa messwhore na dasal na magustuhan ni lola lang ang magagawa mo >:D<

Pansin ko nung simulang rumampage ang felepens sa Miss Universe biglang lumakas at nabuhayan ng interes ang mga fanney ng mga karatig bansa sa Miss Universe =c3

Nagkaroon ng friendly/non-friendly shompetition among SEA cuntries, ang result nadagdagan at lumakas ang fanbase ng Miss Universe sa SEA X( %-(

Kabaliktaran sa messwhore na nabawasan pa dahil wala nang thrill dahil walang tunay na shompetition! =O/ ~X(

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:59 pm
by kantutay
There's a reason why Cory Quirino gave up that franchise. Take a hint Arnold!

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:10 pm
by beautywatchnyc

Vegafria's business venture will bleed to bankruptcy unless cash-endowed partners or individual private donors mount bail.

The recent development inevitably points to a dim scenario for Vegafria's business survival. In no mean terms, Vegafria needs to strategize priorities. But it appears uncertain the fact that Arnold had spread his meagre resources too thinly which makes the proposition unattractive if not ill-timed.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:31 pm
by VrptLvs2LckButt
Kasulasula Sokangamoyniya wrote:Arnold Vegafria should just jump off of the Marikina River.

He’s too dumb to be saved. =O/


Harsh. But true. :%))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:22 am
by wayne_garanchon
KAYA BA NG PINAS HUWAG MAGPADALA NG CANDIDATE SA MISS WORLD? =;)) =;)) =;))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:21 am
by quelab22
good luck to Vegafria

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:27 am
by mrgary
wayne_garanchon wrote:KAYA BA NG PINAS HUWAG MAGPADALA NG CANDIDATE SA MISS WORLD? =;)) =;)) =;))


I think we can survive without Miss World. We've been cheated not only once or twice but three times already from 1973 to 2016 (1973 with Evangeline Pascual, 1993 with Ruffa Gutierrez and 2016 with Catriona Gray). We have been sending competitive girls since 2011 but we've only won once thus far. I think it is high time to give up this franchise for good and change the name of Vegafria's local pageant.

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:14 am
by wayne_garanchon
mrgary wrote:
wayne_garanchon wrote:KAYA BA NG PINAS HUWAG MAGPADALA NG CANDIDATE SA MISS WORLD? =;)) =;)) =;))


I think we can survive without Miss World. We've been cheated not only once or twice but three times already from 1973 to 2016 (1973 with Evangeline Pascual, 1993 with Ruffa Gutierrez and 2016 with Catriona Gray). We have been sending competitive girls since 2011 but we've only won once thus far. I think it is high time to give up this franchise for good and change the name of Vegafria's local pageant.


THEN LET'S STOP SENDING CANDIDATES TO MISS WORLD FOR A CHANGE =;)) =;)) =;))

Re: HOW CAN VEGAFRIA HELP HIS PAGEANT BUSINESS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:28 am
by NHOIE_GEE
i'm not here to comment about the topic. i'm here to appreciate the skill and potential of the thread starter to create a quality threads like this.

it was a nice read.