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Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:43 am

    

Chavacano, also Chabacano, is a Spanish-based creole language spoken in the Philippines. It is the common name for the six dialects of what is formally known in Linguistics as Philippine Creole Spanish. The word "Chavacano" is derived from the Spanish language meaning "poor taste," "vulgar," "common," "of low quality," "tacky," or "coarse".

The Chavacano language is the only Spanish-based creole in Asia. It has survived for more than 400 years, making it one of the oldest creole languages in the world. It is the only language to have developed in the Philippines (a member of Philippine languages) which does not belong to the family of Austronesian languages, although it shows a characteristic common to the sub-classification of Malayo-Polynesian languages, the reduplication.

It is the major language of Zamboanga City. Chavacano is also spoken in Cavite City and in parts of Ternate, Cavite and Sabah, Malaysia nearest to the Philippines, and even in Brunei and Latin America, because of recent migrations.







Papiamento (or Papiamentu) is the official and most widely spoken language on the Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao (the so-called "ABC islands"). Papiamento is also spoken on the island of Sint Eustatius.

Papiamento is a creole language derived from the Portuguese language with vocabulary influences from African languages, English and Arawak native languages.

This Creole is reportedly becoming more similar to Spanish as the time passes due to extensive contact with the Hispanophone countries (particularly Venezuela), but it was originally Portuguese-based.




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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Empress Stevania » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:46 am

I'm Proud Chavacano! =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 >=p >=p >=p
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:49 am

Evan Cody Rivers wrote:I'm Proud to be Chavacano!


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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Empress Stevania » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:56 am

quetal 'tu? >:D<
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:56 am

hay muchos chavacanos aqui... :!! :!! :!!

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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Desi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:27 pm

Chabacano for us Spanish speakers on this side of the globe means when someone is talking vulgar way ( In Spanish of course )... :)>- :)>-
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Desi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:29 pm

DylanWayne wrote:
Evan Cody Rivers wrote:quetal 'tu? >:D<


quien? yo? buenamente amiga...'tu?


Dylan dear what do you mean by Buenamente? :-*
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Desi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:47 pm

I know Dylan, check your PM... >:D<
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Desi » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:53 pm

DylanWayne wrote:
Desi wrote:I know Dylan, check your PM... >:D<


hihihi...thanks miss desi..


You're welcome... :-D >:D<
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:38 am

Desi wrote:Chabacano for us Spanish speakers on this side of the globe means when someone is talking vulgar way ( In Spanish of course )... :)>- :)>-


tnx for the info!

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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Latino_cur » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:40 am

I AM ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE HERE IN THE FORUM THAT SPEAKS PAPIAMENTOOOOO :=p :!! =c3 BIBA KORSOU! (VIVA CURACAO!) >=p
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Latino_cur » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:48 am

I just listened to the chavacano news... and I understand almost everything... it has words which came from spanish that transformed...and became the same as in papiamento :D/
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:48 am

Latino_cur wrote:I just listened to the chavacano news... and I understand almost everything... it has words which came from spanish that transformed...and became the same as in papiamento :D/


the big difference between spanish and chavacano...the verbs in chavacano has no conjugations....how about in papiamento?

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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby Latino_cur » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:06 am

MISS COSMOPOLITAN wrote:
Latino_cur wrote:I just listened to the chavacano news... and I understand almost everything... it has words which came from spanish that transformed...and became the same as in papiamento :D/


the big difference between spanish and chavacano...the verbs in chavacano has no conjugations....how about in papiamento?


yeahh in papiamento it´s the same... the verbs remain the same for each personal pronoun.... I... he... you... etc... is all the same haha 8-}
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:36 am

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MISS COSMOPOLITAN wrote:
Latino_cur wrote:I just listened to the chavacano news... and I understand almost everything... it has words which came from spanish that transformed...and became the same as in papiamento :D/


the big difference between spanish and chavacano...the verbs in chavacano has no conjugations....how about in papiamento?


yeahh in papiamento it´s the same... the verbs remain the same for each personal pronoun.... I... he... you... etc... is all the same haha 8-}


gracias por la informacion!

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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:32 am

LOLZ. Ara lang yo ya puede mira con este Post!

Quere you manda uwi conostedes un cancion the zamboanga.

Zamboanga Hermosa



And the Modern Pop/ALternative Songs famous now in Zamboanga:

CUANDO - COMIC RELIEF
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:36 am

FOR CAIRO MY FRIEND:

PORQUE by Maldita


Etu Lang Nuay Mas Otro by by Mirage Band
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:49 am


Para na maga Cavacano; A naughty reggae song! hehehe



Siembra mi patola alya na tu hardin. Hehehe
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Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:12 am

DylanWayne wrote:wahahahah...este mi patola, sabroso y bien largo...hhahah...love this song! =;)) =;)) =;))


Hehehe. Really cool song with double meaning. lol =;))
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Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:23 am

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DylanWayne wrote:wahahahah...este mi patola, sabroso y bien largo...hhahah...love this song! =;)) =;)) =;))


Hehehe. Really cool song with double meaning. lol =;))


i never heard these songs before...were these marketed?


Yes. All of these songs are Hits among the local Radio Stations. CUANDO is the song of the year in Zamboanga since almost everyone in the city know the lyrics. :)
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Postby MIDAS » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:48 pm

DylanWayne wrote:cool...i'll buy some when i get home.


Are you coming home for xmas??
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby MISS COSMOPOLITAN » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:54 am

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i like it!

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Postby MIDAS » Sun May 02, 2010 5:40 pm

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What's good about Speaking Chavacano is that the people who speaks it can understand or comprehend Spanish. Just like in this vid, the man behind the camera speaks spanish while the students speaks in chavacano... but still they understood each other... there were interactions. ^^
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Re: Chavacano and Papiamento

Postby jessebreceda » Mon May 03, 2010 12:06 am

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What's good about Speaking Chavacano is that the people who speaks it can understand or comprehend Spanish. Just like in this vid, the man behind the camera speaks spanish while the students speaks in chavacano... but still they understood each other... there were interactions. ^^


Yes, that is what is hapening. I speak Spanish and I can understand Chavacano. Well most of it. It's like Spanish and Portuguese, Spanish speaking people and Portuguese speaking people can understand each other.
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