WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

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WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby esperasave » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:26 pm

    

They could have used the Help of The Computer from The Auditing Firm, SGV, so it will save BPCI The time and effort at the Final's Night which is happening as Live Event. The computer could Store the SCORES, Analyze and Eventually Choose The Correct Placement of Winners if there's many Titles Involved in no less time. Likewise, it would appear more credible to the public's view and perception because there's no Human Biases Involved. It is just being objective with fair, clean and honest result. On the other hand, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas Final's Night is not A JUDGE JUDY SHOW when the deliberation and verdict in the Court Room is Happening Live in The Audience View. If in any case, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas deliberation could also be done quickly during commercial break but when the telecast is back, the show must go on again without any gap. They should not hold the audience, hosts, contestant and other people from those gaps. Also, they could add some performances while waiting for any deliberation to finish. The long GAP that happened between announcement of the two biggest TITLES was kinda off to all. It never happened before with Live TV.


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Re: WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby Prozac » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:28 am

esperasave wrote:They could have used the Help of The Computer from The Auditing Firm, SGV, so it will save BPCI The time and effort at the Final's Night which is happening as Live Event. The computer could Store the SCORES, Analyze and Eventually Choose The Correct Placement of Winners if there's many Titles Involved in no less time. Likewise, it would appear more credible to the public's view and perception because there's no Human Biases Involved. It is just being objective with fair, clean and honest result. On the other hand, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas Final's Night is not A JUDGE JUDY SHOW when the deliberation and verdict in the Court Room is Happening Live in The Audience View. If in any case, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas deliberation could also be done quickly during commercial break but when the telecast is back, the show must go on again without any gap. They should not hold the audience, hosts, contestant and other people from those gaps. Also, they could add some performances while waiting for any deliberation to finish. The long GAP that happened between announcement of the two biggest TITLES was kinda off to all. It never happened before with Live TV.


In the first place was there really a deliberation? If you ask me a round-the-table discussion that allows members of
the judging panel to voice their support or their hesitancy to vote for a candidate be done under closed doors and not in front
of a peering public eye. How could a judge voice out a dissent if they were within the hearing distance of an inquisitive audience?

As far as Binibini is concerned, ALL TITLES are of equal value. Are the deliberations done by judges alone or the staff of Bb. Pilipinas is
hounding behind the judges' necks to see what they have come up with? After the top 12 are announced, they are going to assign
which crown is for who. Kung kanino bagay, kung kanino hindi dapat because there are requirements.

A case in point is the age requirement. Some of the titles at stake have an age requirement. If they just left the deliberations
to the judges, how will they know this candidate is old enough for this pageant? In Miss International, there is a prototype or a
PARADIGM they have to follow in order for a candidate to be considered up and running. Do the judges know what mold Miss
International wants? For Miss Gwand International everybody knows Angkol is picky, and with that alone judges don't know
the individual pageants' idiosyncracies let alone their eccentricities.

So if you ask me, even before the contest starts, the organization has already the winners. The deliberation was just a charade.
I have attended several Binibining Filipinas finals before, and I have never seen judges in a close door meeting for deliberation.
Not unless an insider can educate us and that includes video footages that a deliberation really took place.





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Re: WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby esperasave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:11 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:They could have used the Help of The Computer from The Auditing Firm, SGV, so it will save BPCI The time and effort at the Final's Night which is happening as Live Event. The computer could Store the SCORES, Analyze and Eventually Choose The Correct Placement of Winners if there's many Titles Involved in no less time. Likewise, it would appear more credible to the public's view and perception because there's no Human Biases Involved. It is just being objective with fair, clean and honest result. On the other hand, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas Final's Night is not A JUDGE JUDY SHOW when the deliberation and verdict in the Court Room is Happening Live in The Audience View. If in any case, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas deliberation could also be done quickly during commercial break but when the telecast is back, the show must go on again without any gap. They should not hold the audience, hosts, contestant and other people from those gaps. Also, they could add some performances while waiting for any deliberation to finish. The long GAP that happened between announcement of the two biggest TITLES was kinda off to all. It never happened before with Live TV.


In the first place was there really a deliberation? If you ask me a round-the-table discussion that allows members of
the judging panel to voice their support or their hesitancy to vote for a candidate be done under closed doors and not in front
of a peering public eye. How could a judge voice out a dissent if they were within the hearing distance of an inquisitive audience?

As far as Binibini is concerned, ALL TITLES are of equal value. Are the deliberations done by judges alone or the staff of Bb. Pilipinas is
hounding behind the judges' necks to see what they have come up with? After the top 12 are announced, they are going to assign
which crown is for who. Kung kanino bagay, kung kanino hindi dapat because there are requirements.

A case in point is the age requirement. Some of the titles at stake have an age requirement. If they just left the deliberations
to the judges, how will they know this candidate is old enough for this pageant? In Miss International, there is a prototype or a
PARADIGM they have to follow in order for a candidate to be considered up and running. Do the judges know what mold Miss
International wants? For Miss Gwand International everybody knows Angkol is picky, and with that alone judges don't know
the individual pageants' idiosyncracies let alone their eccentricities.

So if you ask me, even before the contest starts, the organization has already the winners. The deliberation was just a charade.
I have attended several Binibining Filipinas finals before, and I have never seen judges in a close door meeting for deliberation.
Not unless an insider can educate us and that includes video footages that a deliberation really took place.



That's what I'm saying that every franchise Binibini has comes with different paradigms and requirements. They have 4 International titles at stake right now. They just need to command the computer with all those requirements then when the judges input their scores from evening gown, swimsuit and interview, the computer could assign different titles to a rightful contestant. Of course, the info of each delegates like age, height, weight, education and other important personal info needs to be input to the database of the computer, so it can think and analyze. It would save BPCI so much time and effort to assign those several titles from 12 semifinalists where the judges give scores.
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Re: WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby LonFlores » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:01 am

Prozac wrote:
esperasave wrote:They could have used the Help of The Computer from The Auditing Firm, SGV, so it will save BPCI The time and effort at the Final's Night which is happening as Live Event. The computer could Store the SCORES, Analyze and Eventually Choose The Correct Placement of Winners if there's many Titles Involved in no less time. Likewise, it would appear more credible to the public's view and perception because there's no Human Biases Involved. It is just being objective with fair, clean and honest result. On the other hand, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas Final's Night is not A JUDGE JUDY SHOW when the deliberation and verdict in the Court Room is Happening Live in The Audience View. If in any case, Binibining Luningning Pilipinas deliberation could also be done quickly during commercial break but when the telecast is back, the show must go on again without any gap. They should not hold the audience, hosts, contestant and other people from those gaps. Also, they could add some performances while waiting for any deliberation to finish. The long GAP that happened between announcement of the two biggest TITLES was kinda off to all. It never happened before with Live TV.


In the first place was there really a deliberation? If you ask me a round-the-table discussion that allows members of
the judging panel to voice their support or their hesitancy to vote for a candidate be done under closed doors and not in front
of a peering public eye. How could a judge voice out a dissent if they were within the hearing distance of an inquisitive audience?

As far as Binibini is concerned, ALL TITLES are of equal value. Are the deliberations done by judges alone or the staff of Bb. Pilipinas is
hounding behind the judges' necks to see what they have come up with? After the top 12 are announced, they are going to assign
which crown is for who. Kung kanino bagay, kung kanino hindi dapat because there are requirements.

A case in point is the age requirement. Some of the titles at stake have an age requirement. If they just left the deliberations
to the judges, how will they know this candidate is old enough for this pageant? In Miss International, there is a prototype or a
PARADIGM they have to follow in order for a candidate to be considered up and running. Do the judges know what mold Miss
International wants? For Miss Gwand International everybody knows Angkol is picky, and with that alone judges don't know
the individual pageants' idiosyncracies let alone their eccentricities.

So if you ask me, even before the contest starts, the organization has already the winners. The deliberation was just a charade.
I have attended several Binibining Filipinas finals before, and I have never seen judges in a close door meeting for deliberation.
Not unless an insider can educate us and that includes video footages that a deliberation really took place.







Wow ah. Requiring evidence pero mismong claims niya (which presumes bad faith) walang evidence. What an irony.
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Re: WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby Idelleann » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:55 am

Keri na. Happy with the winners.
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Re: WHY THERE'S DELIBERATION AT THE PAGEANT FINAL'S NIGHT

Postby Chase » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:07 pm

may laban lahat ng napili
possible ang back to back sa globe at intercontinental
at pati na sa miss international
at posible din ang unang crown sa mgi

di tulad last year pilit na pilit and trying to fit si panlilio sa pakontes ni angkol

bakit nga ba komorona si sampan over the likes of basiano, meiji cruz, karen laurie, pat garcia?
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