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Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivated?

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:29 am

    

Don't used the word "hindi araw-araw ang pasko" in your argument.

Do you think the removal of Samantha Panlilio in the Top 20 is because of her poor performance in the preliminary competition or MGI org intentionally removed her from the list just like what happened to Natasha Joubert at 69th Miss Universe last May or just a retaliation from MGI org because of Samantha Bernardo's rant about her experience at the pageant and declined the runner-up contract from Nawat during her chat with her fellow housemates on Pinoy Big Brother?


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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby Totoypasiboy » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:40 am

Her exclusion in the Top 20 is because of 3 reasons.

1. Her swimsuit performance. It's good but not up to that circus show's standard. Kulang sa landi.

2. SamBer's revelation about her experience in that circus show. Don't get me wrong. I am not blaming her and I believe that she did the right thing when she declined Angkol's offer. Love SamBer.

3. ANGKOL =O/ =O/ =O/ >:< >:< >:<

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Postby cabra_chupa » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:53 am

MYANMAR, CAMBODIA, MALAYSIA, INDONESIA, VIETNAM MADE IT TO TOP 20 OVER PH?
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby kurtij » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:09 am

THE REVELATION OF ARISKA PUTRI PERTIWI, DIDN'T SHE SAY, AS PER HER EXPERIENCES, ITS PREDETERMINED AND ITS MOSTLY THE OWNER'S DECISIONS?

IF SHE REALLY SAID THIS:


IM NOT SURE BUT SAMANTHA PANLILIO SHOULD'VE MADE TOP 20, AT LEAST. THIS CASE REMINDS ME OF EVA PATALINJUG.

I LIKE THE ENTERTAINMENT FROM THIS PAGEANT BUT I'M VERY CRITICAL WITH THE CREDIBILITY. THE OWNER IS JUST TOO.........
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:19 am

cabra_chupa wrote:MYANMAR, CAMBODIA, MALAYSIA, INDONESIA, VIETNAM MADE IT TO TOP 20 OVER PH?


I'm happy to congratulate them that they did. I'm sad for SamPan but does it have to be taken against her personally if her total performance was adjudged to be less at par with the rest of her SEA'n sisters? The Phil is in the limelight for so long. Can't the pie be shared with the others who are equally hungry and judged collectively to be better? Peace out.
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby quelab22 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:20 am

To be honest, PERFORMANCE wise... she is even top 5 material... kay Eva at Samlo maiintidihan mo pa nang kaunti kung bakit sila di pumasok sa top 20... pero sa kanya halos SUPER BAKLAin na nya every segment... masyado syang classy para sa pageant na yan
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby chellomellow » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:48 am

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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:12 am

quelab22 wrote:To be honest, PERFORMANCE wise... she is even top 5 material... kay Eva at Samlo maiintidihan mo pa nang kaunti kung bakit sila di pumasok sa top 20... pero sa kanya halos SUPER BAKLAin na nya every segment... masyado syang classy para sa pageant na yan


Di kaya na discern ni Anne Cole na halos di tumutugma ung baklain moves versus pinanggalingan ni SamPan na classy background with exacting finesse?
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby mybadname » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:34 am

If indeed that info is true, then MGI has no credibility at all as it does not respect judges' decisions. So all the circus that happened before was manipulated by its owner? LOL, good riddance, I don't support that pageant. Sayang lang ang mga pinapadala dyan. Gayahin nyo nga ang ibang bansa na di yan nirerecognize.
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby lucrecia_kasilag » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:49 am

Nabasa ko lang sa ilang IG pages. Di pulitika o underperformance. May tsismis na mukhang initiative na ng BPCI na hindi i-renew ang prangkisa na yan. Sana nga totoo. Sana nga last time na ang pagpapadala sa lintik na sirkuhan ni angkol. ~X( ~X( ~X( Na kaya hindi pinasampa si SamPan kasi wala namang mahihita si angkol kung ayaw na ni BPCI >=p >=p >=p

SamPan is the obligation to the contract na may representante tayo ngayong taon. Sapat na si SamPan na naipaglaban nya ang Pilipinas. Pero totohanan na lang din, parang nakakababa sa dignidad ng babae kahit sinong sasali sa sirkuhan ni angkol. Sana nga wala na sa susunod na taon yan sa BPCI. Eh kaso nga negosyante yang si SMA. Quality over quantity or the other way around? <:-P <:-P <:-P
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:04 am

lucrecia_kasilag wrote:Nabasa ko lang sa ilang IG pages. Di pulitika o underperformance. May tsismis na mukhang initiative na ng BPCI na hindi i-renew ang prangkisa na yan. Sana nga totoo. Sana nga last time na ang pagpapadala sa lintik na sirkuhan ni angkol. ~X( ~X( ~X( Na kaya hindi pinasampa si SamPan kasi wala namang mahihita si angkol kung ayaw na ni BPCI >=p >=p >=p

SamPan is the obligation to the contract na may representante tayo ngayong taon. Sapat na si SamPan na naipaglaban nya ang Pilipinas. Pero totohanan na lang din, parang nakakababa sa dignidad ng babae kahit sinong sasali sa sirkuhan ni angkol. Sana nga wala na sa susunod na taon yan sa BPCI. Eh kaso nga negosyante yang si SMA. Quality over quantity or the other way around? <:-P <:-P <:-P


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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:28 am

I will borrow from actor Coco Martin's quote: "Binarubal na tayo, tinarantado na tayo ni Nawat.", Agree?
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Postby hauteegirl » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:18 am

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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:49 am

MGI 2021: Vietnam (last time won a Big 5 title: Miss Earth 2018)
1st Runner Up: Ecuador (last time won a Big 5 title: Miss Earth 2016)
2nd Runner Up: Brazil (last time won a Big 5 title: Miss Earth 2009)
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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:51 am

ajsy0203 wrote:I will borrow from Coco Martin's quote: "Binarubal na tayo, tinarantado na tayo ni Nawat.", Agree?


ajsy0203 wrote:I will borrow from Coco Martin's quote: "Binarubal na tayo, tinarantado na tayo ni Nawat.", Agree?


My turn to ask ajsy0203:-

Assume the court of public opinion is all hedged against the perceived "manipulative" moves of Angkol N, will the Pinoys collective vote of dissent ground MGI to a halt? Your brand of questioning is deemed collusive that creates rancour and cuts deeper into MGI's psyche. What ails you to think the owner might succumb to pressure and turn the tide in favor of our next Rep even as you are sore with indiscretion? How well do you know the Thai psyche to propound a collision of sorts with its present owners and organizers? It serves to know that these pages remain open for MGI not discounting Angkol's amiable relations with Misso's Pawee? Note, too, that even if BPCI secedes from its contractual obligation with MGI, a new franchisee will likely follow and forge a new franchise agreement. In the wake of this controversy, we ask you to be more discerning and not be hooked at goading the gullible to add more fire and burn these pages?
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:01 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:I will borrow from Coco Martin's quote: "Binarubal na tayo, tinarantado na tayo ni Nawat.", Agree?


ajsy0203 wrote:I will borrow from Coco Martin's quote: "Binarubal na tayo, tinarantado na tayo ni Nawat.", Agree?


My turn to ask ajsy0203:-

Assume the court of public opinion is all hedged against the perceived "manipulative" moves of Angkol N, will the Pinoys collective vote of dissent ground MGI to a halt? Your brand of questioning is deemed collusive that creates rancour and cuts deeper into MGI's psyche. What ails you to think the owner might succumb to pressure and turn the tide in favor of our next Rep even as you are sore with indiscretion? How well do you know the Thai psyche to propound a collision of sorts with its present owners and organizers? It serves to know that these pages remain open for MGI not discounting Angkol's amiable relations with Misso's Pawee? Note, too, that even if BPCI secedes from its contractual obligation with MGI, a new franchisee will likely follow and forge a new franchise agreement. In the wake of this controversy, we ask you to be more discerning and not be hooked at goading the gullible to add more fire and burn these pages?


Unfortunately the charade will continue on until MGI org. will find a new & more respected owner just like Miss International Queen org.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:21 am


And who will dictate the transition to a new ownership or mold? The angry dissenters? Don't be laughable! Not even Anne Cole's loyal followers can unseat his dirty humor much less make him change or alter what he WANTS for his Org. Do you have the clout or the influence to make a dent? Who then?

That's naivety to the max ajsy0203! You sounded like a grade schooler with that level of reasoning! Just because a noisy number of Pinoy antagonists stand eager to mount an angry protest, MGI will fold camp from the rafters? That's what angry fans have been saying against MEO over the years, yet after all 16 years and counting, MEO stands tall and financially viable, that I tend to believe. Your comparison doesn't stand a chance. That is also what the haters of MGI have been saying all along. Not actually an apologist, let's allow merit where it is due. We re all mature adults and can assess matters with a detached enthusiasm. Did you see how next year's edition was accepted in celebrated fashion by an Indonesian host? I was told they are well-oiled and organized. Watch out!
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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:29 am

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Postby Totoypasiboy » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:24 am

lucrecia_kasilag wrote:Nabasa ko lang sa ilang IG pages. Di pulitika o underperformance. May tsismis na mukhang initiative na ng BPCI na hindi i-renew ang prangkisa na yan. Sana nga totoo. Sana nga last time na ang pagpapadala sa lintik na sirkuhan ni angkol. ~X( ~X( ~X( Na kaya hindi pinasampa si SamPan kasi wala namang mahihita si angkol kung ayaw na ni BPCI >=p >=p >=p

SamPan is the obligation to the contract na may representante tayo ngayong taon. Sapat na si SamPan na naipaglaban nya ang Pilipinas. Pero totohanan na lang din, parang nakakababa sa dignidad ng babae kahit sinong sasali sa sirkuhan ni angkol. Sana nga wala na sa susunod na taon yan sa BPCI. Eh kaso nga negosyante yang si SMA. Quality over quantity or the other way around? <:-P <:-P <:-P


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Re: Sam Panlilio unplaced:Poor Perf. or Politically Motivate

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:27 am

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And who will dictate the transition to a new ownership or mold? The angry dissenters? Don't be laughable! Not even Anne Cole's loyal followers can unseat his dirty humor much less make him change or alter what he WANTS for his Org. Do you have the clout or the influence to make a dent? Who then?

That's naivety to the max ajsy0203! You sounded like a grade schooler with that level of reasoning! Just because a noisy number of Pinoy antagonists stand eager to mount an angry protest, MGI will fold camp from the rafters? That's what angry fans have been saying against MEO over the years, yet after all 16 years and counting, MEO stands tall and financially viable, that I tend to believe. Your comparison doesn't stand a chance. That is also what the haters of MGI have been saying all along. Not actually an apologist, let's allow merit where it is due. We re all mature adults and can assess matters with a detached enthusiasm. Did you see how next year's edition was accepted in celebrated fashion by an Indonesian host? I was told they are well-oiled and organized. Watch out!


I hope Ivan will not be berated by these religious leaders who protested against Miss World in 2013 when Madam Liliana planned the finals be held in Jakarta before it was moved back to Bali.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:12 am


What does it matter to you ajsy0203 if Ivan is disowned by his own countrymen? It's not even your resources or reputation at stake. Why do you poke concern when clearly you, I and the readers of these pages are merely enthusiasts coming from another country. You may have a conscience but clearly your motives and his' are not aligned. Just saying..
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Postby stuff » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:36 am

BBPC should just make their own international pageant.
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Postby Geeyourhair » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:33 pm

Of course, the MGI judging system is always tainted. This revelation from their former winner is just a validation that if a certain pageant has no auditing firm auditing the results, then the results can always be manipulated by the owners to his own liking. All the judges at MGI are all for display so if I were the ND of each country, they should think twice of sending their ladies to this pageant because no matter how they work hard to prepare, kung di feel ni Angkol then ligwakers ka talaga.
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Postby vinusya » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:58 pm

I think it is beauty value. It is not Nawat is looking for
If everyone can be a beauty queen, what is hardwork?
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Geeyourhair wrote:Of course, the MGI judging system is always tainted. This revelation from their former winner is just a validation that if a certain pageant has no auditing firm auditing the results, then the results can always be manipulated by the owners to his own liking. All the judges at MGI are all for display so if I were the ND of each country, they should think twice of sending their ladies to this pageant because no matter how they work hard to prepare, kung di feel ni Angkol then ligwakers ka talaga.


The same goes for MWO. It's the same complaint all through these years. Still the question looms:- why are MWO and MGI patronized by member countries, for MWO a 100+ and MGI closer to 70+ and counting. So far, we haven't witnessed the numbers going down. And who do you think are seen laughing their way to the bank?
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:38 pm

Geeyourhair wrote:Of course, the MGI judging system is always tainted. This revelation from their former winner is just a validation that if a certain pageant has no auditing firm auditing the results, then the results can always be manipulated by the owners to his own liking. All the judges at MGI are all for display so if I were the ND of each country, they should think twice of sending their ladies to this pageant because no matter how they work hard to prepare, kung di feel ni Angkol then ligwakers ka talaga.


This was very evident in 2016, there is no computers or papers with folder to score each semifinalists on their table. They are spending the LED and honorarium for the graphic designers but not spending a fee for independent tabulators & computers to input the scores or votes.
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beautywatchnyc wrote:
Geeyourhair wrote:Of course, the MGI judging system is always tainted. This revelation from their former winner is just a validation that if a certain pageant has no auditing firm auditing the results, then the results can always be manipulated by the owners to his own liking. All the judges at MGI are all for display so if I were the ND of each country, they should think twice of sending their ladies to this pageant because no matter how they work hard to prepare, kung di feel ni Angkol then ligwakers ka talaga.


The same goes for MWO. It's the same complaint all through these years. Still the question looms:- why are MWO and MGI patronized by member countries, for MWO a 100+ and MGI closer to 70+ and counting. So far, we haven't witnessed the numbers going down. And who do you think are seen laughing their way to the bank?


From 75 in 2018 to 60 in 2021. Singapore is frequently absent among the Southeast Asian countries at MGI. So the none of the Singaporean franchise holders doesn't want to deal with Nawat and they knew the truth?
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Postby Rhamie » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:22 am


EVIDENT NAMAN PERFORMANCE NI SAMPAN SI ANGKOL TALAGA YUNG MAY KASALANAN

as my saying goes by open your eyes close your mouth
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Postby rockondude » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:33 am

Probably maybe is not a good idea to try to destroy a pageant reputation with rumors and a bad vibe and then expect your girl to place. This website has been extremely unprofessional with IMG.
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