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Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby uzumaki » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:47 am

    

As many of you guys know. Miss Earth for the second time in a row will go virtual and Miss International is cancelling their 60th edition for the 2nd time. But as fans would say, why do you cancel when you can do virtual? and why will you go virtual instead of cancellation? Now which one is better.

I would like to open this discussion. This will not even affect the decision of both organizations.

If you ask me, cancellation is better. You now ask what is the reason why you need to go virtual? If the reason is about the health and safety of the people who will be working on the pageant which includes the candidates, then Cancellation is better. Why would you allow the girls to work virtual if there is still that possibility for them to contract the virus from any of the crew they will work with in their home countries? It doesn't make sense. Isn't it?

If a pageant is cancelled, no one can talk about how bad the edition went, Nobody can say that the winners are not deserving, no people or organization can question the health protocols in placed by the organizers as there was nothing in a cancelled pageant to begin with.

Cancelling due to health and safety is a sound reason than doing it virtually. Now whats your take on this? to cancel or do virtual?


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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:56 am

WHAT IF COVID WILL LAST FOR 50 YEARS? SO PAGEANTS LIKE MISS INTERNATIONAL WILL HELD ITS NEXT EDITION IN 2059? OH THAT'S BULLSH*T.

SIREETHORN WILL BE TOO OLD TO CROWN HER SUCCESSOR AND THAT PAGEANT WILL SLOWLY GO DOWNWARD IN THE END.

VIRTUAL PAGEANT IS BETTER BECAUSE OF CONTINUITY.
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Totoypasiboy » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:56 pm

Just like Madam Lorraine Schuck said, Miss Earth, is advocacy-driven. They cannot just put their advocacy aside just because of an ongoing pandemic. If you are against doing virtual pageants, then that's you. There are still other pageants that you can follow who are willing to take the risk and hold a live competition. As long as there are people who will continue to support Miss Earth, regardless of the situation, then that's all that matters. Don't hate the MEO for adjusting to the new normal. If they think that a virtual pageant is what's best for everyone, then so be it. They should be commended for their innovation. That's all.

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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby goddessoxana27 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:08 pm

Ok lang na magpaliban ulit ang MI...

Para makapagwalwal pa more si Felepens... Sa Bora

Miss Earth... Virtual... :=p :=p :=p

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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby vinusya » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm

There's a lot of COVID cases in Philippines, why?
If everyone can be a beauty queen, what is hardwork?
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby vinusya » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:55 pm

There's a lot of COVID cases in Philippines, why?
If everyone can be a beauty queen, what is hardwork?
Maybe there is no hardwork, only surgeries ?
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Nand » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:51 pm

In general, I observed that there are 3 people in this forum that cannot get over with this topic and stated their piece over and over again. =O/ =O/


Find them at the OFFICIAL ROAD TO MISS EARTH 2021: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1862440


Also, this was already discussed in this thread:
Should Carousel hold a live pageant for Miss Earth 2021?: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1907569
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby hauteegirl » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:08 pm

#YESTOVIRTUAL

pero wag pilitin na mag take time ang candidates and their teams na gumawa ng sarili nilang stage. just rate or score them according to their skills. Mahal nga naman at magastos mag stage sila tapos talo lang rin pala.

Covid is here to stay for several years kaya we need to adapt the change of time.



Una sa lahat, magastos ang:

- magpictorial from their own team, magbabayad pa sila ng professional photographer
- kung set sila ng stage, gagastos sila sa material and the team who will put up the stage
- they have to pay kung sino ang mag set ng virtual/cameraman na professional
- it takes a lot to handle to do virtual that's why other pageants don't like virtual
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Harvey » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 am

Totoypasiboy wrote:Just like Madam Lorraine Schuck said, Miss Earth, is advocacy-driven. They cannot just put their advocacy aside just because of an ongoing pandemic. If you are against doing virtual pageants, then that's you. There are still other pageants that you can follow who are willing to take the risk and hold a live competition. As long as there are people who will continue to support Miss Earth, regardless of the situation, then that's all that matters. Don't hate the MEO for adjusting to the new normal. If they think that a virtual pageant is what's best for everyone, then so be it. They should be commended for their innovation. That's all.

I am woman of the Earth! Char!


CANDIDATES DO NOT WANT TO JOIN VIRTUAL MISS EARTH, SAME AS THE DIRECTORS. WHO WOULD WANT TO? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BACUSE THEY ALREADY PAID THE FRANCHISE FEE AND THEY MADE EFFORTS IN HOLDING NATIONAL PAGEANT. MISS EARTH WAS OFFERED BY A GROUP OF DIRECTORS TO HOST IT OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES BUT SHE DECLINED BECAUSE SHE IS AFRAID OF CONTRACTING COVID AND OF COURSE SHE WILL NOT SPEND MONEY TO HOLD AN INTERNATIONAL PAGEANT. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND COMFORT ZONE.
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby goddessoxana27 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:34 am

Nand wrote:In general, I observed that there are 3 people in this forum that cannot get over with this topic and stated their piece over and over again. =O/ =O/


Find them at the OFFICIAL ROAD TO MISS EARTH 2021: https://www.missosology.info/forum/view ... &t=1862440


Also, this was already discussed in this thread:
Should Carousel hold a live pageant for Miss Earth 2021?: https://www.missosology.info/forum/view ... &t=1907569


The first two posters and the thread setter
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:17 am

vinusya wrote:There's a lot of COVID cases in Philippines, why?


THE GOVERNMENT SUCKS, ESPECIALLY THE HEALTH SECRETARY. THAT'S WHY.
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:18 am

100% AGREE TO THIS.

hauteegirl wrote:#YESTOVIRTUAL

pero wag pilitin na mag take time ang candidates and their teams na gumawa ng sarili nilang stage. just rate or score them according to their skills. Mahal nga naman at magastos mag stage sila tapos talo lang rin pala.

Covid is here to stay for several years kaya we need to adapt the change of time.



Una sa lahat, magastos ang:

- magpictorial from their own team, magbabayad pa sila ng professional photographer
- kung set sila ng stage, gagastos sila sa material and the team who will put up the stage
- they have to pay kung sino ang mag set ng virtual/cameraman na professional
- it takes a lot to handle to do virtual that's why other pageants don't like virtual
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby supladoman » Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:34 am

It's disappointing to hold a virtual pageant but I understand since we have pandemic and a surge of cases here in the Philippines. We have to adjust and adopt to the new normal and there and there will be people who will still compete despite that Miss Earth will go virtual (please let there be miracle for a hybrid pageant [-O< ). On the other hand in MI's case, it's their prerogative if they don't want to hold the pageant virtual but let's say that covid will stay for years, will they cancel it yearly? Too bad for the girls that will be overage if that's the case. Both have pros and cons but one thing for sure is that both orgs are after the delegate's safety.
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby chaoxu08 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:05 am

Harvey wrote:
Totoypasiboy wrote:Just like Madam Lorraine Schuck said, Miss Earth, is advocacy-driven. They cannot just put their advocacy aside just because of an ongoing pandemic. If you are against doing virtual pageants, then that's you. There are still other pageants that you can follow who are willing to take the risk and hold a live competition. As long as there are people who will continue to support Miss Earth, regardless of the situation, then that's all that matters. Don't hate the MEO for adjusting to the new normal. If they think that a virtual pageant is what's best for everyone, then so be it. They should be commended for their innovation. That's all.

I am woman of the Earth! Char!


CANDIDATES DO NOT WANT TO JOIN VIRTUAL MISS EARTH, SAME AS THE DIRECTORS. WHO WOULD WANT TO? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BACUSE THEY ALREADY PAID THE FRANCHISE FEE AND THEY MADE EFFORTS IN HOLDING NATIONAL PAGEANT. MISS EARTH WAS OFFERED BY A GROUP OF DIRECTORS TO HOST IT OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES BUT SHE DECLINED BECAUSE SHE IS AFRAID OF CONTRACTING COVID AND OF COURSE SHE WILL NOT SPEND MONEY TO HOLD AN INTERNATIONAL PAGEANT. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND COMFORT ZONE.


Can you provide proof for this "MISS EARTH WAS OFFERED BY A GROUP OF DIRECTORS TO HOST IT OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES"?

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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby vinusya » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:33 am

Why didn't you consider postponement?
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby fermnedoza » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:25 am

vinusya wrote:There's a lot of COVID cases in Philippines, why?


Because if our government's s incompetence. And our politicians being politicians!
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Ligaya Magdalena » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:27 pm

Bakit naman ang MGI ni nawat naitawid ng maayos yung pageant night nila 06 months ago. 8-> 8-> 8-> Sabagay mas malaki matitipid ng organizer pag virtual.

Aminin niyo na lang kasi na poorisima ang ME gaya ng MUPh parehong walang pondo at sponsors. Eh di tapos ang usapan. :D/ :D/ :D/
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby Xanadu Tinkerbell » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:07 pm

Japan warns Southeast Asia including the Philippines, to stay away from religious sites and pageant crowds due to a possible terrorist attack.

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https://philstarlife.com/news-and-views ... sia?page=2

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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby brent520 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:43 pm

Ligaya Magdalena wrote:Bakit naman ang MGI ni nawat naitawid ng maayos yung pageant night nila 06 months ago. 8-> 8-> 8-> Sabagay mas malaki matitipid ng organizer pag virtual.

Aminin niyo na lang kasi na poorisima ang ME gaya ng MUPh parehong walang pondo at sponsors. Eh di tapos ang usapan. :D/ :D/ :D/


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Money is not the issue here. It is safety.

Don’t compare this to MGI, because during that time their cases were low. If you talk NOW, it is a whole different scenario.

They do not want another Miss Eco mishap to happen.

So yes the decision to go virtual makes sense
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby JustinSky » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:23 am

chaoxu08 wrote:
Harvey wrote:
Totoypasiboy wrote:Just like Madam Lorraine Schuck said, Miss Earth, is advocacy-driven. They cannot just put their advocacy aside just because of an ongoing pandemic. If you are against doing virtual pageants, then that's you. There are still other pageants that you can follow who are willing to take the risk and hold a live competition. As long as there are people who will continue to support Miss Earth, regardless of the situation, then that's all that matters. Don't hate the MEO for adjusting to the new normal. If they think that a virtual pageant is what's best for everyone, then so be it. They should be commended for their innovation. That's all.

I am woman of the Earth! Char!


CANDIDATES DO NOT WANT TO JOIN VIRTUAL MISS EARTH, SAME AS THE DIRECTORS. WHO WOULD WANT TO? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BACUSE THEY ALREADY PAID THE FRANCHISE FEE AND THEY MADE EFFORTS IN HOLDING NATIONAL PAGEANT. MISS EARTH WAS OFFERED BY A GROUP OF DIRECTORS TO HOST IT OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES BUT SHE DECLINED BECAUSE SHE IS AFRAID OF CONTRACTING COVID AND OF COURSE SHE WILL NOT SPEND MONEY TO HOLD AN INTERNATIONAL PAGEANT. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND COMFORT ZONE.


Can you provide proof for this "MISS EARTH WAS OFFERED BY A GROUP OF DIRECTORS TO HOST IT OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES"?

May I know who they are?


Lorraine mentioned in the interview that there is an offer to hold Miss Earth abroad but she declined because she doesnt want to travel
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby sleuth08 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:40 pm

REGARDLESS WHICH ONE IS BETTER, IN THE END, YOU CAN NEVER PLEASE EVERYONE

YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST

MISS INTERNATIONAL THINK IT IS BEST TO CANCEL THE PAGEANT EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE ARE CLAMOURING TO HAVE IT VIRTUAL

MISS EARTH THINK IT IS BEST TO HOLD IT VIRTUAL EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE THINK THERE IS A WAY TO HOLD THE PAGEANT LIVE SAFELY

MISS UNIVERSE AND MISS WORLD THINK IT IS BEST TO HOLD A LIVE PAGEANT EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE THINK IT IS STILL TOO DANGEROUS WITH RISING COVID CASES
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby hauteegirl » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:29 pm

paubos na ng paubos ang Top 30 ng MUP dahil na covid sa katagalan ng pageant na ito. Pinipilit kasing mag live. Next time nyan yung mga mega favorites at strong candidates na ang ma +.
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Re: Cancellation or Virtual Which one is better

Postby radagasdas » Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:43 pm

Preliminary competition ng MUP 2021 is now cancelled. Di ata pinayagan ng IATF, so what to expect =;)) =;)) hindi pa sya coronation night. =;)) =;))
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