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SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS OF MISS EARTH

Postby Mizzyshay12 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:44 am

    

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Postby hauteegirl » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:19 am

shes the same girl that lost in Miss Universe right?
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:36 am

Mizzyshay12 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq4XXmHzu-k

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MISS EARTH MEXICO HAD A VERY BAD EXPRIENCE :-O :-O @-) @-) @-) :-O :-O @-)

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Postby bootsguy » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:42 pm

I think she speaks about the simple or cheap treatment like bottled water and local simple dishes which is in stark contrast to the all-star royalty treatment she received in Miss Universe. She feels like she is competing in a remote town barrio contest not a prestigious international pageant.
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Re: SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS OF MISS EARTH

Postby Bonitillo Campanella » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:45 pm

yes that's Kristal Silva, she said in that video she didn't care about ME at all, she did it just because =;)) =;)) =;))

girl wtf? 8-}

she was mad that all the contestants had to hang out wearing just a swimsuit with the "Sponsors", most of them were men who kept on trying to grope the girls and it made her very uncomfortable

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Postby Nina Cleopatra » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:15 pm

The Girls did a Swimsuit round and went to change to meet all the Old Filipino men outside. but the ME Organization forzed the girls too change back to the bikinis for the pleasure of the Old Filipino men in the audience. Some where gropped during this activity. She states the Org is pimping the girls for money. :-O :-O :-O
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Postby ne0n » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:53 pm

If she felt she was "pimped" in the Philippines during the Miss Earth pageant in 2013, why did she have no qualms returning to the Philippines for the Miss Universe pageant in 2016?

Sorry, it just doesn't add up. I would presume she has reported something this traumatic to her national org like how Eva Patalinjug submitted a written report IMMEDIATELY to BPCI with regards to her grievances with the pageant she joined in 2018.

She didn't talk about it then as it did not seem to fit her narrative: she obviously love the spotlight that pageants bring so her "grievances" have to take a backseat first.

And to talk about it 8 YEARS LATER for what? Just to stay relevant? Sorry not sorry, but you are so busted girl!

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Re: SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS OF MISS EARTH

Postby Mizzyshay12 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:20 pm

Nina Cleopatra wrote:The Girls did a Swimsuit round and went to change to meet all the Old Filipino men outside. but the ME Organization forzed the girls too change back to the bikinis for the pleasure of the Old Filipino men in the audience. Some where gropped during this activity. She states the Org is pimping the girls for money. :-O :-O :-O


yes and it is not the first time either :-O :-O :-O :-O
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Re: SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS OF MISS EARTH

Postby Handsama » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:30 pm

Sadly, these incidents are nothing new to pageantry. We’ve all heard similar accusations thrown at other pageants. The worst one for me was Trump ogling the Miss Universe contestants while in various states of undress.

But what I would like to know is what did these women do afterwards. Did they discuss these incidents with the powers that be? What measures were taken? I’d like to think that none of these reputable orgs would intentionally expose the women to sexual harassment. But I can also see how unscrupulous men would take advantage of various situations when no one is looking. In Miss Earth, we all know that the delegates travel to many places where the local sponsors are the ones who are primarily in charge so I can see such scenarios possibly happening. But if the ladies don’t tell the org, how would the organizers know? Coming up with such accusations in an interview done eight years later after the alleged incident just makes me weary of the exact motive behind it.
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Postby Nand » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:46 am

What took her so long t talk about it? Anyway, here's what I found out when a googled pageant scandals.

Maggie Wilson reveals bad experience during Miss World 2007 competition:

GMA Network: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/showbiz ... ion/story/

Philippine Entertainment Portal: https://www.pep.ph/lifestyle/23523/upda ... ompetition

The headlines were written in English but not the articles so I have to google translate:


MISS WORLD EXPERIENCE. What happened and was she not happy with Madam Stella?

"Why am I not happy with her? I guess because when I was competing in China, I was physically harassed by our sponsors. They touched my ass, then the other girls, grabbed my boobs! Of course, it wasn't released to the press because it was in the contract I, not, "Maggie revealed.

CONTINUE READING BELOW

She added, "They are Chinese sponsors, a big company. I was rude. Oh, I really slapped him, 'no! The one who held me. I said,' Don't touch me! ' I beat him. "

The Miss World pageant wasn't over yet, but Maggie didn't care.

"Duke, I'd rather have my dignity, right? I'd rather have my dignity than agree to be insulted so I can win, right?

"When I called Stella, she told me to finish, she didn't do anything. I wanted to leave, I didn't want to, she just told me to 'Just finish it, you have to finish it.'

"I said ... You know, I didn't do anything. And what happened to him because he didn't do anything to help me or anything. So, I was put off. I finished him [the pageant], but I knew then that I don't want to win, "Maggie said.

Why?

"Because that's it ... Miss World too, they didn't do anything. The organization itself didn't do anything," she snapped.


Isn't he the only candidate with experience then?

"No, 80 percent of the girls, groped!" said Maggie.

"Because when we arrived, it was ten o'clock [in the evening], then the sponsors were drunk. Then what they did, two girls per table, all boys.

"I said, 'I'm not a -prostitute, I'm a beauty queen, I'm the ambassador of my country, this is not how you should treat me.'

"Then of course, it's like I've been really put off being a beauty queen, like, 'You know what, if I have to sell myself to these people, just don't.'"

What did the Chinese do after he was slapped?

"No, of course he surprised me. Then I in-English him, he couldn't understand me. But he saw my sash Philippines," Maggie said.

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Postby Rosa Mystica » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:01 am

Ohhhh, so now you see, you are accusing and pointing fingers to Miss Earth and now the table has turned, seems like it's Miss World and Miss Universe who has many things to explain especially the skeleton in their closets... =;)) =;)) =;)) :D/
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Postby esperasave » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:26 am

Everywhere in the world rather the universe you go, it's happening. The only thing you do is just like in any stressful situations, is fight and flight to teach them a lesson.
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Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:28 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:The Girls did a Swimsuit round and went to change to meet all the Old Filipino men outside. but the ME Organization forzed the girls too change back to the bikinis for the pleasure of the Old Filipino men in the audience. Some where gropped during this activity. She states the Org is pimping the girls for money. :-O :-O :-O


So disgusting.

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Postby misssimplicity » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:48 pm

ne0n wrote:If she felt she was "pimped" in the Philippines during the Miss Earth pageant in 2013, why did she have no qualms returning to the Philippines for the Miss Universe pageant in 2016?

Sorry, it just doesn't add up. I would presume she has reported something this traumatic to her national org like how Eva Patalinjug submitted a written report IMMEDIATELY to BPCI with regards to her grievances with the pageant she joined in 2018.

She didn't talk about it then as it did not seem to fit her narrative: she obviously love the spotlight that pageants bring so her "grievances" have to take a backseat first.

And to talk about it 8 YEARS LATER for what? Just to stay relevant? Sorry not sorry, but you are so busted girl!



why she went back? BECAUSE THIS TIME AROUND IT WAS THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS AND TRUSTED ORG HANDLING IT--SHE HAS NO ISSUE BEING IN THE PHILIPPINES JUST THE THE SLEAZY ORG.
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Postby ne0n » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:36 pm

Nand wrote:What took her so long t talk about it? Anyway, here's what I found out when a googled pageant scandals.

Maggie Wilson reveals bad experience during Miss World 2007 competition:

GMA Network: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/showbiz ... ion/story/

Philippine Entertainment Portal: https://www.pep.ph/lifestyle/23523/upda ... ompetition

The headlines were written in English but not the articles so I have to google translate:


MISS WORLD EXPERIENCE. What happened and was she not happy with Madam Stella?

"Why am I not happy with her? I guess because when I was competing in China, I was physically harassed by our sponsors. They touched my ass, then the other girls, grabbed my boobs! Of course, it wasn't released to the press because it was in the contract I, not, "Maggie revealed.

CONTINUE READING BELOW

She added, "They are Chinese sponsors, a big company. I was rude. Oh, I really slapped him, 'no! The one who held me. I said,' Don't touch me! ' I beat him. "

The Miss World pageant wasn't over yet, but Maggie didn't care.

"Duke, I'd rather have my dignity, right? I'd rather have my dignity than agree to be insulted so I can win, right?

"When I called Stella, she told me to finish, she didn't do anything. I wanted to leave, I didn't want to, she just told me to 'Just finish it, you have to finish it.'

"I said ... You know, I didn't do anything. And what happened to him because he didn't do anything to help me or anything. So, I was put off. I finished him [the pageant], but I knew then that I don't want to win, "Maggie said.

Why?

"Because that's it ... Miss World too, they didn't do anything. The organization itself didn't do anything," she snapped.


Isn't he the only candidate with experience then?

"No, 80 percent of the girls, groped!" said Maggie.

"Because when we arrived, it was ten o'clock [in the evening], then the sponsors were drunk. Then what they did, two girls per table, all boys.

"I said, 'I'm not a -prostitute, I'm a beauty queen, I'm the ambassador of my country, this is not how you should treat me.'

"Then of course, it's like I've been really put off being a beauty queen, like, 'You know what, if I have to sell myself to these people, just don't.'"

What did the Chinese do after he was slapped?

"No, of course he surprised me. Then I in-English him, he couldn't understand me. But he saw my sash Philippines," Maggie said.



The root cause I think is in the negative perception of pageantry among certain factions who think they can take advantage of these girls. Who could forget how Miss Universe Oxana Fedorova was disrespected in the Howard Stern interview which must have cause her resignation.



Not only at Miss World and Miss Earth, even Miss International in 2013 was hounded with controversy when its winner Ikumi Yoshimatsu reported being harrassed, stalked, and threatened by a top agency executive.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/miss-internat ... al-1429402

Not to be spared is Osmel Sousa, iconic beauty czar of Venezuela as allegations of former contestants said they were being force to be escorts and concubines of politicians and businessmen in exchange of financing their pageant preparations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/opin ... ption.html

Even the budding pageant MGI already have their own share of controversy when MGI 2013 Anea Garcia reported being sexually assaulted during an official trip in South Sudan.

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/ce ... nvkz3.html

And who would forget the Undercover Asia documentary that allegedly exposed the ugly side of Philippine pageantry. Bb Pilipinas World 2008 Janina San Miguel was quoted being offered 3 million for a one night stand.




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Postby ne0n » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:38 pm

Therefore, this I believe is a widespread pageant industry problem that needs to be address seriously. It is the organizations main responsibility to protect their girls, yes, yet some unscrupulous individuals still manage to seep through the cracks.

The girls on their part should immediately report any incidents to their org, if not to higher authorities, to at least mitigate the problem and prevent another occurence, at the very least.

What is truly DISGUSTING is how some individuals and groups are using this issue to target pageant organizations that doesn't suit their fancy.

These incidents exposed a widespread disease in the society which pageantry is only a part of. As Miss International Bea Santiago, who was herself a victim of molestation, said: Sexual harassment is REAL, not just in beauty pageants, but EVERYWHERE!

https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/b ... y-harassed


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Postby manoypoe » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:15 am

ne0n wrote:Therefore, this I believe is a widespread pageant industry problem that needs to be address seriously. It is the organizations main responsibility to protect their girls, yes, yet some unscrupulous individuals still manage to seep through the cracks.

The girls on their part should immediately report any incidents to their org, if not to higher authorities, to at least mitigate the problem and prevent another occurence, at the very least.

What is truly DISGUSTING is how some individuals and groups are using this issue to target pageant organizations that doesn't suit their fancy.

These incidents exposed a widespread disease in the society which pageantry is only a part of. As Miss International Bea Santiago, who was herself a victim of molestation, said: Sexual harassment is REAL, not just in beauty pageants, but EVERYWHERE!

https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/b ... y-harassed



They have their own agenda that is why they are singling out Miss Earth only. What else do you expect? The slapping incident of Maggie Wilson plus all that was posted are a testament that sexual harrasment is happening everywhere. It is even happening in hollywood.

I hope that Carousel and all other respectable pageant orgs have learned their lessons and ensure that the delegates are always protected. Though we all know that it is very difficult to control male predators to victimize beautiful young women.
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:45 am

Also, its not the mistake of the organization if the invited male guest is a closeted maniac who cannot control himself in front of the candidates. Blame the individual not the beauty pageant organization.
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Postby ne0n » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:48 pm

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ne0n wrote:If she felt she was "pimped" in the Philippines during the Miss Earth pageant in 2013, why did she have no qualms returning to the Philippines for the Miss Universe pageant in 2016?

Sorry, it just doesn't add up. I would presume she has reported something this traumatic to her national org like how Eva Patalinjug submitted a written report IMMEDIATELY to BPCI with regards to her grievances with the pageant she joined in 2018.

She didn't talk about it then as it did not seem to fit her narrative: she obviously love the spotlight that pageants bring so her "grievances" have to take a backseat first.

And to talk about it 8 YEARS LATER for what? Just to stay relevant? Sorry not sorry, but you are so busted girl!



why she went back? BECAUSE THIS TIME AROUND IT WAS THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS AND TRUSTED ORG HANDLING IT--SHE HAS NO ISSUE BEING IN THE PHILIPPINES JUST THE THE SLEAZY ORG.


It is not a secret that Filipino businessman/ politician, Chavit Singson (old Filipino men? Sponsor?), finance the whole staging of Miss Universe 2016. But good thing no issue of this sort was reported.


https://youtu.be/bX6XjRQE32E

Not saying Kristal is not speaking her truth as it might not be easy for her that time, if true.

But one will question her real motive of exposing it now when she chose to stay silent about it then, and unnervingly went back to Manila, 3 long years after the alleged pimping, to expose herself AGAIN to "old Filipino men"? Just doesn't add up sorry.

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