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Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:28 am

    

from the election of kiki hakansson of sweden as the first miss world in 1951 to the recent crowning of phuong khanh nguyen of
vietnam as miss earth 2018, a total of 208 ladies were crowned the most beautiful girl in their respective international pageants representing 59 countries and territories. mere successions to the crown and crowning by mistake are not included.

out of these 59 countries, only three nations managed to secure all four crowns:

venezuela
brazil
philippines

eleven countries won three of the four crowns, majority of these countries only need the earth crown, except for india to complete their collection. these countries are;

argentina
australia
finland
france
germany
greece
india
netherlands
puerto rico
spain
usa

the table below shows the list of the fifty nine countries and territories and the last year they won in each of the big four pageant.
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miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby JaninaCruz-Vega » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:05 am

Does the dethronement doesn't count?
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:20 am

JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby wokian2 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:22 am

cindy_kato wrote:
miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


i don't see what is "surprising" about Bosnia & Herzegovina being historically part of the Former Yugoslavia. That is not a surprise, there is a history behind that.

Serbia is the official successor of the former Yugoslavia, so any credits or references to the old Yugoslavia should be given to Serbia.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby wokian2 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:29 am

cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:47 am

wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


i don't see what is "surprising" about Bosnia & Herzegovina being historically part of the Former Yugoslavia. That is not a surprise, there is a history behind that.

Serbia is the official successor of the former Yugoslavia, so any credits or references to the old Yugoslavia should be given to Serbia.


i agree. but the word "surprisingly" is used in anyway to "exaggerate" the statement. if you read properly, yugoslavia is no longer expected to win any crown but one of the successor countries won miss earth in 2002
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:49 am

wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.


ariadna's crowning is just a result of the fiasco. technically, she is not the winner. if only steve harvey didn't f**k up the announcement.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby DUBROVNIK » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:52 am

:7 Nice thread! :7

Brazil, Venezuela and the Philippines are the only countries that have All Crowns, and also the title of Miss Supranational. :)>-

The last weekend, Vietnam got it's first ME crown and also the first within the Big Pageants!

I've been a fan of the beauty pageants for a long time and I see with sadness that there are countries where pretty girls abound :-w but have not reached any Universal crown :-w

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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby JaninaCruz-Vega » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:00 am

cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


Okay. BTW, nice thread. :=p
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby hjackson » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:45 am

wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


i don't see what is "surprising" about Bosnia & Herzegovina being historically part of the Former Yugoslavia. That is not a surprise, there is a history behind that.

Serbia is the official successor of the former Yugoslavia, so any credits or references to the old Yugoslavia should be given to Serbia.


OLD YUGOSLAVIA CONSISTS OF BOSNIA, CROATIA,SERBIA,MONTENEGRO AND SLOVENIA !!!! I DONT THINK IT SHOULD BE CREDITED TO SERBIA ONLY !!!! BY THE WAY BEEN TO BOSNIA,CROATIA,BOSNIA,SERBIA, MONTENEGRO AND SLOVENIA !!!!
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:00 pm

DUBROVNIK wrote:
:7 Nice thread! :7

Brazil, Venezuela and the Philippines are the only countries that have All Crowns, and also the title of Miss Supranational. :)>-

The last weekend, Vietnam got it's first ME crown and also the first within the Big Pageants!

I've been a fan of the beauty pageants for a long time and I see with sadness that there are countries where pretty girls abound :-w but have not reached any Universal crown :-w

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looking at the table, i was surprised to see that next to venezuela and brazil, the next most successful south american country is argentina (3 out of 4 crowns) and not colombia. and they were closed to winning the earth crown in 2001 with daniela stucan (miss earth fire in 2001).
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby DUBROVNIK » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:00 pm

cindy_kato wrote:
DUBROVNIK wrote:
:7 Nice thread! :7

Brazil, Venezuela and the Philippines are the only countries that have All Crowns, and also the title of Miss Supranational. :)>-

The last weekend, Vietnam got it's first ME crown and also the first within the Big Pageants!

I've been a fan of the beauty pageants for a long time and I see with sadness that there are countries where pretty girls abound :-w but have not reached any Universal crown :-w



looking at the table, i was surprised to see that next to venezuela and brazil, the next most successful south american country is Argentina (3 out of 4 crowns) and not colombia. and they were closed to winning the earth crown in 2001 with Daniela Stucan (miss earth fire in 2001).

In the decade of the '60s Argentina was very lucky winning the most important Crowns.
Then little by little the interest declined and now the Argentina's people prefer the Fashion's world, with top models such as Valeria Mazza.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby Busyboy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:21 pm

Great thread Cindy!

You surprised me here... :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby Busyboy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:23 pm

I can’t believe Colombia hasn’t won a MW crown yet! :-O :-O :-O
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby urvashi rautilapia » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:33 pm


Oh my God! Puerto Rico is almost there!!!!


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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby ambasing » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:03 pm

Can you please remove Mess Earth and Mess World there---well Mess World is Okish but MESS Earth--please it's a garbage pageant :@) :@) :@) :@)
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby hrexen » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:16 pm

ambasing wrote:Can you please remove Mess Earth and Mess World there---well Mess World is Okish but MESS Earth--please it's a garbage pageant :@) :@) :@) :@)


I respect ME but I’d remove It and Supra. Def. no big pageants.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby darnbaby900 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:31 pm

hjackson wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


i don't see what is "surprising" about Bosnia & Herzegovina being historically part of the Former Yugoslavia. That is not a surprise, there is a history behind that.

Serbia is the official successor of the former Yugoslavia, so any credits or references to the old Yugoslavia should be given to Serbia.


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I agree with you. Treating Serbia as official successor of the former Yugoslavia is ridiculous. Serbia, as a constituent Yugoslav republic has equal status with any of the other former republics of Croatia, FYROM, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and Montenegro..and even Kosovo. It is safe to say that no former Yugoslav rep should inherit any crown won by that dissolved country. I wonder what made him think that anything that was Yugoslav should be considered a Serbian thingy. :D
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby Busyboy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:41 am

Some people here are just so out of touch with the world outside Misso... :-@ :-@ :-@
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:51 am

Busyboy wrote:Great thread Cindy!

You surprised me here... :-D :-D :-D


my tag in the other forum is actually "scribe". some of my articles were even published in the main s.f site
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby Busyboy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:45 am

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Busyboy wrote:Great thread Cindy!

You surprised me here... :-D :-D :-D


my tag in the other forum is actually "scribe". some of my articles were even published in the main s.f site


Eh kasi tol, akala ko puro ka lang patawa at pang-aasar... >:D< >:D< >:D<
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby haroldgerm » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 am

ambasing wrote:Can you please remove Mess Earth and Mess World there---well Mess World is Okish but MESS Earth--please it's a garbage pageant :@) :@) :@) :@)


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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby Fangit Ka » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:14 am

wokian2 wrote:
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JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.


Colombia's Ariadna was NOT dethroned since she did NOT win to begin with; it was just an announcement error. Not same logic.
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Re: Race to the Crown

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miss international 1965 from germany is the longest reigning queen. she was miss international for 624 days.
yugoslavia is the only country not expected to win another crown as the country disintegrates into 5 separates countries in 1992. surprisingly, bosnia and herzegovina used to be part of the yugoslavia.


i don't see what is "surprising" about Bosnia & Herzegovina being historically part of the Former Yugoslavia. That is not a surprise, there is a history behind that.

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SERBIA is the the official de-facto successor state. Politically and Diplomatically. So that applies to other international relations including Sports and Pageants

It is the same analogy as USSR is to Russia. All present-time references to USSR is referred to present-time Russia, and not the former republics such as Ukraine, Estonia, Kazakhstan etc.
Same thing with Czechoslovakia is to Czechia, and again Serbia for the former Serbia and Montenegro.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby wokian2 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:53 am

Fangit Ka wrote:
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cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.


Colombia's Ariadna was NOT dethroned since she did NOT win to begin with; it was just an announcement error. Not same logic.


TS said CROWNED DURING THE FINALS NIGHT. Thus, the argument.

Which goes back to my main question which does this mean the official reigned queen (in the case of Kenya and Panama) is not worthy of the credit? That is the question.
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:22 am

wokian2 wrote:
Fangit Ka wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.


Colombia's Ariadna was NOT dethroned since she did NOT win to begin with; it was just an announcement error. Not same logic.


TS said CROWNED DURING THE FINALS NIGHT. Thus, the argument.

Which goes back to my main question which does this mean the official reigned queen (in the case of Kenya and Panama) is not worthy of the credit? That is the question.

crowning as a result of the host mistake is not counted, bitch
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby cindy_kato » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:50 am

so venezuela won their eight miss international crown, making mariem the 209th lady to be crown in a big four pageant.
country count still stand at 59
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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby manoypoe » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:17 am

Busyboy wrote:
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Busyboy wrote:Great thread Cindy!

You surprised me here... :-D :-D :-D


my tag in the other forum is actually "scribe". some of my articles were even published in the main s.f site


Eh kasi tol, akala ko puro ka lang patawa at pang-aasar... >:D< >:D< >:D<


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Re: Race to the Crown

Postby manoypoe » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:22 am

wokian2 wrote:
Fangit Ka wrote:
wokian2 wrote:
cindy_kato wrote:
JaninaCruz-Vega wrote:
Does the dethronement doesn't count?


they were included. bosnia herzegovina earth and russia universe 2002 for example are included, kenya and panama their respective successors doesn't count. i only include those who were officially crowned during the finals night.


i dont know the relevance of the list without giving credit to the assumed winner (rather than the dethroned). If that is the case, count in Colombia (Ariadna) instead of Philippines (Pia) for Universe 15. Same logic.


Colombia's Ariadna was NOT dethroned since she did NOT win to begin with; it was just an announcement error. Not same logic.


TS said CROWNED DURING THE FINALS NIGHT. Thus, the argument.

Which goes back to my main question which does this mean the official reigned queen (in the case of Kenya and Panama) is not worthy of the credit? That is the question.


PIA WAS CROWNED ON SAME NIGHT AS THE RIGHTFUL WINNER. NO DETHRONEMENT.
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