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Trillanes to be arrested

Postby ambasing » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:56 pm

    

Anong say niyo mga kamisso??

Aarestohin na daw si Trillanes!


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Postby sarahmarrow » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:59 pm

ambasing wrote:Anong say niyo mga kamisso??

Aarestohin na daw si Trillanes!


Sa anong kaso?
link naman diyan. baka naman kuryente lang iyan
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:10 pm


There's a legal basis for all these. The past finally caught up with the nuisance senator. Remember Oakwood, Manila Peninsula? Gumawa ng labag sa batas tapos binigyan ni Benigno "Walang Alam" Aquino ng amnesty. Bakit? definitely for political reasons. Trillanes should see his day in court (not in the court of public opinion to which he is akin at doing.) We have had enough of his noise. Let us see how these developments unfold.
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Postby mrgary » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:21 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
There's a legal basis for all these. Trillanes should see his day in court (not in the court of public opinion to which he is akin at doing.) We have had enough of his kind. Let us see how these developments unfold.


it is about time that he needs to be put on trial.
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Postby LonFlores » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:39 pm

MGA BAKLA! LET US HEAR FROM A LEGAL EXPERT'S POINT OF VIEW PARA NAMAN DI TAYO MUKHANG PANATIKO NI KATAY DIGONG.

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In issuing Proclamation No.572, the President revoked the amnesty granted to Senator Trillanes for being void ab initio on the ground that he did not comply with the "minimum requirements to qualify under the amnesty proclamation." The Proclamation cited a certification from the Armed Forces of the Philippines' Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel that there is no available copy of Trillanes' application for amnesty, and that he refused to admit his guilt. Much like Sereno who was booted out of office after her appointment was declared void ab initio, Trillanes now finds himself under threat of arrest after his amensty proclamation is being revoked for the same reason.

A patent illegality

The revocation of the Trillanes amnesty is illegal. Without any doubt, Proclamation 572 is a patent illegality, if not outright unconstitutional. It is riddled with legal loopholes to such an extent that it gives the unmistakable impression that it has been dished out for no other reason than to silence a staunch and implacable critic of the President.

Proclamation 75, the amnesty proclamation under which Senator Trillanes applied for in connection with his involvement in the Oakwood mutiny, was processed by the military, approved by then President Aquino and concurred in by Congress. Unlike pardon, amnesty looks backward and abolishes and puts into oblivion the offense itself, it so overlooks and obliterates the offense with which Trillanes was charged that he being released by amnesty stands before the law precisely as though he had committed no offense. There is no question that Trillanes is a grantee of a valid amnesty proclamation, as such his criminal liability was fully extinguished.

Contrary to the President’s statement that Trillanes did not submit an application and a copy of which cannot be found in the Requirement Room, there is ample evidence that this application was in fact submitted. Abigail Valte, a spokesperson of former President Aquino, in fact shared on Twitter a photo of Trillanes' amnesty application and a video of the document's filing. Even assuming that a copy of the application could not be found, can the presumption of regularity at least be held in favor of the officials who issued, processed, and had custody of his amnesty application? Same goes with Trillanes’ admission of guilt which prior to the issuance of Proclamation 572 had never been questioned nor put under scrutiny by the previous administrations.

The Proclamation tethers as an ex post facto law for ostensibly inflicting punishment upon Trillanes for an act done prior to its issuance when before the eyes of the law, he has not committed any crime. It is akin to a bill of attainder which singles out the opposition Senator for punishment without trial. Both are proscribed under the Constitution and has no place in a democratic and civilized society.

It should also be noted that an amnesty is not a unilateral act by the President. Granting it required congressional concurrence. This is to make sure the whole government, indeed the country, is bound that decision. It cannot be undone by the Presidential fiat.

That the President is ordering the immediate arrest of Trillanes, a civilian, is another reason to declare the Proclamation illegal. We all know that a warrant to arrest an individual can only be issued by the courts. The President is but the chief implementor or executive and is not vested under the Constitution with judicial powers. Hence, he cannot simply order the arrest of an individual whimsically, without a judicial fiat.

The courts on the other hand cannot issue an arrest warrant for cases that have already been dismissed by virtue of the amnesty.

An unwise policy

The revocation of the Trillanes amnesty is not right for the country long-term. Indeed, policy wise, the revocation of any amnesty is disastrous for a country riven by social conflicts. Time and again, political amnesties has been resorted to as a means for healing social and national strife.

In the Philippine American war, as the hostilities wound down, amnesty was resorted to so that everyone would have an option to come down from the hills. After World War II, even as it was controversial, amnesty was offered even to collaborators with the Japanese so the country could move on. In the 1960s and 1970s, and even during the martial law era, amnesties were resorted to bring the Huks, Moro rebels, and other groups back to the fold of the law. More recently, members of the Moro National Liberation Front, the Cordillera People’s Liberation Army, several left-wing groups independent of the Communist Party of the Philippines, and military rebels were granted amnesty. In the future, amnesty has to be granted to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front as well as the cadres and combatants of the Communist Party of the Philippines, New People’s Army, and National Democratic Front of the Philippines if a permanent peace settlement is achieved with the latter groups.

As far as I know, there has never been an instance when amnesty given by one president has been revoked by a subsequent president. If this becomes a rule, future presidents would have lost an important tool for national healing and unity. Who would trust any president who makes promises to rebel groups if his or her successor could at a whim revoke an amnesty?

Immoral and unjust

The revocation of the Trillanes amnesty is evil. It is immoral and unjust because it is done for a personal reason, for partisan political motives, and not for the good of the country.

Most of President Duterte’s most vociferous critics have been silenced or are in danger of being silenced. First on the chopping block was Senator Leila De Lima who had the misfortune of initiating an investigation against then Mayor Duterte for supposed human rights violations when she was still the head of the Commission on Human Rights. Then the Commission on Human Rights itself was attacked when it questioned the President’s prosecution of the war on drugs, the administration’s centerpiece campaign. His allies in Congress made an attempt to emasculate the constitutional body with a paltry one thusand peso budget. Fortunately, this attempt proved too blatant even for administration allies. Then came former Chief Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno who had to go after she was ousted under dubious circumstances by her own colleagues via a quo warranto conviction.

Vice-President Leni Robredo’s position is also under threat because of a pending electoral protest before the Supreme Court sitting as the Presidential Electoral Tribunal. Of course, we all have been witness to the verbal attacks made by no less than Duterte against the Catholic church, the president’s favorite whipping boy, which remains an influential institution in the country.

So, it is no small wonder that Senator Trillanes, President Duterte’s nemesis, would be targeted next. If at all, it is a cause of wonderment why it took this government so long, more than two years, to make its move. It may be because the Senator proved to be the hardest nut to crack of all the lot.

Considering all the recent actions being undertaken by this administration to stifle any and all opposition and critics coupled with the President’s chilling pronouncements giving preference to a dictatorship or a military junta over the Vice President, as the mandated Constitutional successor, one cannot help but entertain the thought that we are inexorably slidding towards an extraconstitutional regime. Is a repeat of the Marcos dictatorial regime in the offing? After Trillanes who’s next? The prospects are simply too chilling to contemplate.
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Re: Trillanes to be arrested

Postby ambasing » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:54 pm

I can't wait to see him on jail with his lover Delima--ang saya saya naman ng tamabalan nila..

Paano na kaya si kalbong baklang alejo na jowa niya??bi pala itong si trilliling..
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Postby sophocles » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:21 am

This is one of Pnoy's many mistakes - granting amnesty to Trillanes. The opposition to Duterte will never gain any ground for as long as Trillanes and Delima are its leaders. What's the point of opposing Duterte kung ang alternative eh yung dalawa na 'yan?
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Postby 100Mile » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:36 am

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It's time to re- visit his home..he's been living there before..right ? :D/ @-) :)>-












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Postby hauteegirl » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 am

DUTERTE!!!!!!!!! =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3


PNOY IS NEXT!!!!!!! :)>-
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Postby ambasing » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:13 am

hauteegirl wrote:DUTERTE!!!!!!!!! =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3 =c3


PNOY IS NEXT!!!!!!! :)>-


Hindi ba pwedeng si Hontivirus muna..??
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Postby ambasing » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:15 am

100Mile wrote:.


It's time to re- visit his home..he's been living there before..right ? :D/ @-) :)>-




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Postby chorr » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:50 am

1. Kung amnesty ang binigay sa kanya, wala sa jurisdiction ng Pangulo ang pag bawi nito sa kanya. He was able to comply to all requirements set by the previous admin, e ang grounds ng "revocation" daw ay ang hindi pag amin ni Trillanes ng ginawa nya, which he did. Ang lungkot lang kasi hawak ng Admin na ito at si GMA pa ang House Speaker. The only way for it NOT TO BE REVOKED, BUT BE CALLED VOID (please know the difference) is with a Congressional vote, which malamang sa malamang, e makuha nila kasi TUTA NG ADMIN ANG KONGRESO. KADIRI.
2. Warrantless arrest. Kasi WALANG MAISAMPANG KASO. Just when I thought this admin can't get lower, boom.

Hindi ako makapaniwala na sa bulok ng gobyernong to, meron pa talagang sumusuporta dito. Ew.
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Postby manoypoe » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:16 am

chorr wrote:1. Kung amnesty ang binigay sa kanya, wala sa jurisdiction ng Pangulo ang pag bawi nito sa kanya. He was able to comply to all requirements set by the previous admin, e ang grounds ng "revocation" daw ay ang hindi pag amin ni Trillanes ng ginawa nya, which he did. Ang lungkot lang kasi hawak ng Admin na ito at si GMA pa ang House Speaker. The only way for it NOT TO BE REVOKED, BUT BE CALLED VOID (please know the difference) is with a Congressional vote, which malamang sa malamang, e makuha nila kasi TUTA NG ADMIN ANG KONGRESO. KADIRI.
2. Warrantless arrest. Kasi WALANG MAISAMPANG KASO. Just when I thought this admin can get lower, boom.

Hindi ako makapaniwala na sa bulok ng gobyernong to, meron pa talagang sumusuporta dito. Ew.


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Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:30 am


The President will not make such move if he knew he will be proven wrong in the end. This did not happen overnight. The revocation of amnesty is not a spur of the moment decision. Let's wait and see how Trillanes will conduct himself in the courts (martial) of law.
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Postby chorr » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:03 am

Is that why he allowed SolGen Calida to file a murder case against Leftist congressmen and Sec. Liza Maza that was eventually dismissed? Is it also like the revealed tactic to have Sen Risa Hontiveros wrongly arrested too by Aguirre? Yes it doesnt happen overnight, it was a looooong orchestrated tactic of the admin to silence it staunchest critics along with the conspiracy of the new Speaker of the House whom Trillanes coup-ed on. I find it funny that they can't do it when Alvarez was the House speaker and when the president is in the country.

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Postby manoypoe » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:13 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
The President will not make such move if he knew he will be proven wrong in the end. This did not happen overnight. The revocation of amnesty is not a spur of the moment decision. Let's wait and see how Trillanes will conduct himself in the courts (martial) of law.


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Trillanes challenged Pres. Duterte for an IQ Test

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YUNG ASKAL NA SI TRILILLING...
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Malacañang revokes Trillanes’ amnesty... Orders his arrest!

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Re: Trillanes to be arrested

Postby Hu Yu Hai Ding » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:52 am

He will not resist arrest daw, pero di din daw sya aalis sa Senate building kasi hanggang nasa Senate building sya hindi daw sya huhulihin. =;)) :%)) =;))

Tapos na din ang kaululan mong hayup ka...wala kang ginawa sa buong termino mo kundi tumahol ng tumahol na parang asong ulol..napaka-swerte mong Senador sumusweldo ka ng walang pagod kundi kumuda ng kumuda... Sa kulungan ka ngayon magtatahol bakla... Daming nota dun ayyy inday pagkakaguluhan ka dun ganyang itsura ang bet ng mga siga sa kulungan...wasak ang wetpaks mo dun sundalong kanin trililling... =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :%))

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At aba, himala, hindi tulog at nagising si Drilon? :%)) :%)) :%))

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Trillanes cannot escape Human Law nor can he
escape the Law of Karma. It both catches with him.

Leni next on your fraud election!
Rissa next on your philhealth scam!
Drillon next on your Pdaf fund and drug protector!
Abnoy, Abad and Garin on your triple whammy corruption!
The End of Days finally!

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Postby Dyesabel » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:56 am

Makukuha na ni ANGELO REYES ang HUSTISYA... Dahil sa paninira, kasinungalingan
at pagbibintang ni TRILLANES ng katiwalian kay ANGELO REYES ay nagpakamatay ito!!
Nadepress ang tao... Ngayon TRILLANES ito na ang KARMA mo !!! >:)

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Palace: Trillanes amnesty 'void ab initio,' was never in effect

The amnesty granted to Senator Antonio Trillanes IV was never in effect because it is ‘void ab initio’ or was not valid from the very beginning, Malacañang asserted on Tuesday, September 4.

Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque Jr. conducted a press briefing on the sidelines of President Rodrigo Roa Duterte's official visit here to discuss Proclamation No. 572, which the President recently signed.

The proclamation declared the senator's amnesty as "void ab initio." Roque for his part said the decision to revoke the amnesty was solely “based on law and on facts.”

He said the amnesty was never in effect because Trillanes never complied with the requirements to qualify for it in relation to his involvement in the Oakwood mutiny and the Manila Peninsula siege.

These include personally filing an Official Amnesty Application Form with the Department of National Defense (DND) and expressly admitting guilt for the crimes committed.

“We are not undoing; it never was effective, kasi hindi naman niya kinomply ‘yung mga requirements, ‘yun po ang ibig sabihin ng ‘void ab initio.’ There is nothing to undo, because hindi naman siya naging valid from the very beginning,” Roque stressed.

“The past finally caught up with Senator Trillanes. He is responsible for his current state,” he added.

The Cabinet official said there was nothing political about the President’s proclamation, adding that the Chief Executive was merely exercising his obligation to implement the law.

According to the proclamation, Trillanes had not in fact applied for amnesty, and there were also no records of him admitting guilt.

“It is void ab initio dahil unang una, hindi po nag-apply ng amnesty itong si Senator Trillanes. At pangalawa po, hindi po siya umamin sa pagkakasala,” Roque stated.

“In the first place, he did not ask for the amnesty; it was given to him in a silver platter by the previous administration. So when you did not ask for amnesty, you are not entitled to it. When you did not admit to your guilt - which is a precondition for amnesty - then you are not entitled to amnesty. So what’s there to be heard? Amnesty is not a matter of right; it’s an act of beneficence. It’s an act of generosity on behalf of the Executive,” he added.

On this note, Roque stated that all criminal and administrative charges will be pursued against the senator.

He said Trillanes would be allowed to have his day in court to prove his innocence as well as to challenge the President's revocation of his amnesty.

“Sa ngayon po ang Proclamation ay laban lamang kay Senator Trillanes, at ang epekto nga sang-ayon dito sa Proclamation 572 mismo ay mabubuhay ang lahat ng mga kasong nakabinbin laban kay Senator Trillanes,” he stated.

Meanwhile, the executive branch will be reviewing records of other individuals involved to determine if any of them had also failed to comply with the preconditions set for amnesty, Roque underscored.



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So if amnesty was not granted, then Trillanes returns to military and is subject to court martial !

President Rodrigo Duterte on August 31 signed Proclamation No. 572 which declared the amnesty extended to the opposition senator void because he failed to comply with the "minimum requirements to qualify."

Arevalo said the proclamation would bring Trillanes back to his former status as an active military personnel, leaving him subject to military rules and discipline.



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Postby Bulbulito Bayagbag Ahhh » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:00 am

Matagal akong hindi nakakain ng buffet lunch sa Escolta restaurant (formerly Nielsen’s) sa Manila Pen dahil nasira ang hotel sa magulong coup attempt na pakana mo.... Kaya dapat makulong ka talaga uli. Wag kang lumabas sa Senado at dyan ka muna matulog tonight or else sa kulungan ang bagsak mo.
As they say, it will be deja vu all over again.
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