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Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:55 pm

    



A transgender points of view on transgender and mental illness. Shocking! Is he/she right or wrong?


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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby AaronICK » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:37 pm

He's wrong. Because he's talking subjectively.

What about those transgenders who really live up to be one till the end and are happy?

Something you want today but regretted later on is a type of person who has no CONTENTMENT. They are driven by their own personal desires to get what they want today but not think of the total effect of that decision for the rest of their lives.

I think what he forgot is the word RESPECT. Something that he himself was looking for when he decided to undergo sex change and become a transgender. Yet the forgot to respect the decision of other people who went through the same thing that he experienced before.

Not all people will experience the type of "revelation" he had for himself. And whatever made him realize his mistake, it's his own doing. I understand that he's giving some sort of "warning" to those people. But it is still a personal decision and he must respect those people who wishes to choose to be transgender. Anyway, your life is yours to live, no matter how you choose to live it. Just pray to the heavens above to give you wisdom to choose the right thing.

On a personal note, who are we to say that transgender is a mental illness? I don't want people to say that me being gay is an illness. Besides, the World Health Organization (WHO) has decided to no longer classify transgender people as mentally ill.

The organisation's 11th International Classification of Diseases (ICD) catalogue and "gender incongruence" (the term they use for people whose gender identity is different from the gender they were assigned at birth) has been moved out of the mental disorders chapter and into the sexual health chapter.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby chellomellow » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:38 pm

My pastor says it is! Also, Ben Shapiro says the same. Most conservatives think so too...
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby chellomellow » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:42 pm

Why Transgender People Experience More Mental Health Issues
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Individuals who identify as transgender tend to experience higher rates of mental health issues than the general population. While approximately 6.7 percent of the general United States population suffers from depression and 18 percent grapple with some iteration of an anxiety disorder, nearly half of all individuals who identify as transgender experience these issues. What's more, over 41 percent of trans men and women are estimated to have attempted suicide — a rate that's nearly nine times as high as the rate of cisgender Americans.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby chellomellow » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:43 pm

The Anti-Science Mainstreaming of Mental Illness

On Tuesday, the U.K.'s Daily Mail reported that 23-year-old Anna Teshu of Staten Island, New York, has gone missing. Teshu's 15 minutes of fame began in 2015 when she was featured on the internet because her boyfriend was walking her around on a leash in public. Her boyfriend said: "The collar is like a ring for most couples. They use rings, we have a collar." Teshu reportedly enjoyed spending time in a puppy cage, as well. She explained, "The first time I put on a collar I thought, 'Now I need to find someone for the other end.'"

That same year, she was arrested for animal cruelty after allegedly leaving a dog in a hot car. Her attorney said, "She's a disabled person." She was found mentally unfit to stand trial and escaped conviction.

Now she's missing.

All of this makes headlines because the media and the public decided to treat a mentally ill person as a mentally healthy person making "alternative choices." Instead of Teshu receiving the help she so obviously needed, the media chose to treat her as a unique flower blooming, and the public nodded along in order to appear tolerant -- all the while laughing.

Teshu isn't alone.

In 2015, Sarah Boesveld of the National Post in Canada reported on a new phenomenon: "transabled" people, who feel that they've been born disabled people in healthy bodies. Some of these people cut off their own limbs. According to Boesveld: "Most crave an amputation or paralysis, though (one researcher) has interviewed one person wants his penis removed. Another wants to be blind. Many people ... arrange 'accidents' to help achieve the goal." According to the researcher, "this disorder is starting to be thought of as a neurological problem with the body's mapping, rather than a mental illness."

While Teshu and the transabled may seem fringe, transgenderism is quickly becoming mainstream. Media advocates for transgenderism as mental health say that men who believe they are women, for example, are actually women and ought to be treated as such, insisting that members of society refer to them using female pronouns. In December, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals determined that an Ohio school district must let a young girl continue to use the restroom of her choice, stating that to prevent it would "further confuse a young girl with special needs ... and subject her to further irreparable harm." The young girl in question is a boy who believes she is a girl.

None of this is an argument for governmental intervention. It is an argument for society to stop treating mental illness as mental health -- for the good of the mentally ill. Delusions should not be treated as reality. And treatments that do not work (transgender surgery has no impact on suicide rate, for example) should not be treated as solutions, particularly when those treatments are applied to children.

That does not mean that good solutions have been found for many of these mental illnesses. But to stop searching for good solutions and deem the problem solved by virtue of instilling the normalcy of the illness is counterproductive and dangerous.

My grandfather was hospitalized for paranoid schizophrenia in the 1960s. He thought he heard the radio talking to him. Today's society would presumably determine that a lifestyle choice and celebrate his diversity rather than getting him the lithium treatment he required, which saved his family. A society that thinks itself kind while treating mental illness as "letting your freak flag fly" and all the while silently snickering at the supposed freaks is a cruel society indeed.


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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:18 am

Are there transgenders that had been treated with certain medications and were cured?
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby bcdf1930 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:00 am

TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>- TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CURE 'BEING TRANSGENDER' IS RIDICULOUS :)>-
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:10 am

bcdf1930 wrote:TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>-


Are u a transgender? How does it feel? Am trying to understand. :)>-
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:20 am

micoexpress5 wrote:
bcdf1930 wrote:TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>-


Are u a transgender? How does it feel? Am trying to understand. :)>-


Did u undergo surgery?
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

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micoexpress5 wrote:
bcdf1930 wrote:TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>-


Are u a transgender? How does it feel? Am trying to understand. :)>-


I AM GAY..NOT TRANSGENDER AND I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE GAY AND HEARING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CURE BEING GAY :)>-
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby Oscillate » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:08 am

I would rather consider religious fanaticism and bigotry as mental illnesses instead of being a transgender.

One of the reasons why transgenders experience a number of mental health problems is the judgmental nature of many people. Yes, many of you are part of that problem. Instead of minding your own life and shit, you dwell on castigating people of their life choices as if they will ruin yours.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby frederick » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am

I think it is a Mental Illness. I believe that gay men need counselling so that they will not change their sex organ and just be happy as a gay men.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby GARAM PHANG » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:20 am

bcdf1930 wrote:
micoexpress5 wrote:
bcdf1930 wrote:TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>-


Are u a transgender? How does it feel? Am trying to understand. :)>-


I AM GAY..NOT TRANSGENDER AND I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE GAY AND HEARING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CURE BEING GAY :)>-




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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby frederick » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:27 am

bcdf1930 wrote:TRANSGENDER IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS! IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHICH CAN BE CURED! YOU ARE BORN THAT WAY! UNLESS YOU ARE A TRANSGENDER YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT FEELS :)>- :)>- :)>- TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CURE 'BEING TRANSGENDER' IS RIDICULOUS :)>-

It is a mental Illness and it can be cured. Gay men need counselling so that they will not change their sex organ.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby Clorentine » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:11 am

frederick wrote:I think it is a Mental Illness. I believe that gay men need counselling so that they will not change their sex organ and just be happy as a gay men.


Gay is complete different to be a transgender , starting with that, so, what kind of counseling do you suggest?? by the way, you should research a little better, being a transgender is not considered a mental illness by the OMS
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby TopTgirl » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:46 am

[-X I AM A TRANSGENDER WOMAN & I'M A PRE-OP, I DON'T HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS. I'M A PROFESSIONAL & I WORK WITH STUDENTS WITH AUTISM. I GET THE SAME PRIVILEGES SUCH AS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, NICE CAR, GOOD JOB, LOVING PARTNER & MORE :!! WHAT I NEED IS RESPECT FROM EVERYONE :)>-
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby pacifico falafoxy » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:00 am

Everyone has many issues on a daily basis.

But many gays and most transgenders are adding more stresses to their lives noawadays. Our bodies can only handle adequate stresses, not too much. For one thing, they defy God’s law and morality. I’m sure their conscience is telling them something that their lifestyle is not acceptable regardless of what pride parades are telling them to be.

Since they are not living or going with the flow according to their birth gender, not what God wants them to be and what their parents raised them to be, they will be constantly stressing themselves out. Our bodies can only handle stresses to a certain level. Too much is too much.

If you keep on fighting for society’s acceptance, that’s very stressful knowing that there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Societies would never accept homosexuality and same sex marriage totally. Our heterosexual parents expect us to live heterosexual lives. That’s a given.

Parents of gays and transgenders do give support knowing their children are adding more stresses to their lives on top of being skeptical wishing that their gay and transgender kids live a less stressful and normal heterosexual lives. That expectation not fulfilled can be stressful. Too much stresses can make you physically and psychologically sick.

If you decide to go with the flow or with the society and morality, then living could be less stressful.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby markita » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:35 am

Oscillate wrote:I would rather consider religious fanaticism and bigotry as mental illnesses instead of being a transgender.

One of the reasons why transgenders experience a number of mental health problems is the judgmental nature of many people. Yes, many of you are part of that problem. Instead of minding your own life and shit, you dwell on castigating people of their life choices as if they will ruin yours.


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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby frederick » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:35 am

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frederick wrote:I think it is a Mental Illness. I believe that gay men need counselling so that they will not change their sex organ and just be happy as a gay men.


Gay is complete different to be a transgender , starting with that, so, what kind of counseling do you suggest?? by the way, you should research a little better, being a transgender is not considered a mental illness by the OMS

Transgenders were gay men before until they decided to change their sex organs because of insecurity and discontentment. I would advise gay men to be happy and appreciate what GOD gave to them. I will tell them that there is more to life than changing their sex organ which I believe a sin... You are already loved by GOD being gay men.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby brent520 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:06 pm

I wish that one day Missosology will be rid of Bigoted, ignorant and hateful human beings such as you.

The cure to this is awareness...

Because through awareness one would understand

Through understanding one would empathize

And through empathy one would accept and LOVE

THE ONLY CURE HERE IS LOVE
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:39 pm

Missosology allowing such discussion like this promotes awareness. If we accuse everyone trying to make conversation about transgender being bigots then we will lose the battle. This is the time and good place to start good debate about what we think about transgender. Look at the title it’s with question mark! If u disagree with the transgender on the video discussing transgender and mental illness, then give your rebuttal. This way u promote awareness and civility.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby blasted20000 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:49 pm

It is sad because many members here are from LGBT community and this just shows that within LGBT community there is homophobia and hatred.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:45 am

blasted20000 wrote:It is sad because many members here are from LGBT community and this just shows that within LGBT community there is homophobia and hatred.


I don’t think many missosology members r homophobic. Having a different opinion on transwomen joining pageants for natural born women does not equate to hatred or homophobia. Some may resort to name calling which is a form of bigotry but majority of missosology members do not.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby jimrey1989 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:55 am

Being a transgender is a CHOICE and not a mental illness.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby bcdf1930 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:45 pm

COMING OUT AS TRANSGENDER IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT BY ITSELF...IT TAKES A LOT OF INNER STRENGTH IN A WORLD WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTING...WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE AS TO WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE OKAY TO DO THAT INSPITE OF THE RIDICULE..THERE SHOULD BE SOME TRUTH IN IT RIGHT? IT IS JUST COMMON SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT!
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby chellomellow » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:18 pm

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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby micoexpress5 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:29 pm

bcdf1930 wrote:COMING OUT AS TRANSGENDER IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT BY ITSELF...IT TAKES A LOT OF INNER STRENGTH IN A WORLD WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTING...WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE AS TO WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE OKAY TO DO THAT INSPITE OF THE RIDICULE..THERE SHOULD BE SOME TRUTH IN IT RIGHT? IT IS JUST COMMON SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT!


It’s hard to impose acceptance to everyone, it takes time, education, and patience. People who r clamoring for acceptance resort to changing themselves because they can’t accept their original selves, so don’t impose acceptance to other people. I believe that changing thyself should be focus in achieving inner peace, happiness, and satisfaction. A change should be directed to resolve inner conflict and not for the purpose of gaining acceptance from others. If you are happy, content and at peace with yourself, you don’t need acceptance from others who don’t believe in what you believe. I believe with the saying “my body my choice “, so I am a big of supporter pro choice. The big question is ...... is it the right choice. Choices come in different forms, right and wrong,, good and evil. Time will tell if the choice is right or wrong. Nowadays it’s confusing what is right and wrong, so I always ask guidance from the BIG MAN up there.
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Re: Transgender a Mental Illness?

Postby The Duchess » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:02 am

Transgenders have a higher chance of battling mental illness because we as a society treat them like shit, let's not confuse that.


Also believing that transgender women are automatically gay men cutting their penises off is a dangerous generalization as many transgender women are bisexual and attracted to women. Many trangender women have wives ect. Same as transmen, please lets investigate more before making blanket statements
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